From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 5 20:13:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14138 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:13:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14133 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01889; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810060316.UAA01889@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Peter Wallace cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line i/f (Re: PicoBSD) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:54:41 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 20:16:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Whats the big deal about cramming this onto a single floppy... > > > Wouldn't a real embedded FreeBSD application use a small flash drive? The > > > smallest chips that we use now are 4 M Bytes and about $12.00, cheaper > > > than a floppy drive! > > > > They don't have mounting screws, nor can you plug them into a standard > > motherboard. 8) > > > > Lots of "embedded" stuff involves an ordinary PC bolted to the inside > > of a big wooden box or similar. > > But I think lots _more_ embedded stuff will be: higher reliability > / wider ambient temperature range / smaller size / and lower cost than can > be achieved with a floppy for boot device... For that sort of thing, definitely. "Embedded" systems cover an enormous range, and if you're manufacturing your own hardware, the story changes rapidly. > I guess it depends on what the imagined target for PicoBSD is. Extremely varied - I certainly see it being used on flash-based systems; don't get me wrong, I'd love to see an unencumberd TFFS clone. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message