From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 10 13:32:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CA137B6A9 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id WAA03673 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:31:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19189 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:30:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: dutch keyboard map (+sort note) Date: 10 Apr 2000 22:30:41 +0200 Message-ID: <8ctdlh$in7$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <38F0C306.41C67EA6@xs4all.nl> <200004092033.WAA73151@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> <20000410012143.A95967@keltia.freenix.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > As there isn´t a dutch keymap for syscons, > > ^ > > That's an acute accent (the same diacritic as in 'é'), not an > > apostrophe. > > In 8859-1 yes but not in 8859-15 (aka Latin9)... Well, the original message was in Latin 1. You re-interpretating it as Latin 9 is not fair. > In 8859-15 (which is 8859-1 with 8 different characters including > the Euro symbol >¤< and the '½/¼' aka oe/OE pair), the acute accent > is a slovac letter (I think), a 'Z' with a reversed circumflex > (like a small 'v'). As a modified Latin 1, Latin 9 doesn't cover Slovak. Besides, that would require a few more characters. The S and Z caron that were added are supposedly required for Finnish. > That's why this character should have never been used in place of an > apostrophe but I've seen many germans using it, even those outside > Windows... I've always wondered why. Apparently the typical German keyboard has both an apostrophe and an acute. The latter is intended as a deadkey, but the use of deadkeys doesn't seem to be universal, for many people the acute seems to be located more conveniently, from the glyph the difference is hardly obvious, and depending on the font users may consider the acute in fact to have the more desirable shape. And of course trying to explain to most users the difference between character, glyph, code point, and encoding is entirely futile. "But I don't care, I only want to have"--points--"this one." -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message