Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:46:34 -0700 From: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <8E50CCF2-AAEF-4794-9AAA-9300DF36A45B@netconsonance.com> In-Reply-To: <86tzg6aeye.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org> <6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com> <200806050248.59229.max@love2party.net> <B9B83C12-7130-490D-A4BE-0469711B24DC@netconsonance.com> <20080605083907.GD1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <902E9703E6E50776A17E9F92@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080605220244.GP1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <34E9F0D46D7B9F45EDA38F4C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <86tzg6aeye.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Three people replied to Jo Rhett's initial email. Here's what they > said, with Jo's own text elided: Among other things, you time-warped some of my comments into replies =20 to things people said to the comments themselves. But the most =20 crucial is that you dropped the entire point I was trying to make and =20= focused on someone else's desire to focus on the specific bugs, rather =20= than the overall policy issue. So your entire thread is misguided at =20= best. Specific bugs are always addressed on the PRs themselves or =20 the hardware-specific mailing list, not on the general -stable list. Even worse is your summary: > I won't pretend to know what Jo is thinking or what his motivation is, > but in my experience, when people respond in this manner, it's because > they know they have no solid data or arguments, and are trying to save > face. What face? Huh? Exactly what face do I have to save? Why on gods =20 green earth would I put saving face over system stability? I think =20 you are confusing me with someone who has time to spend all day =20 writing on mailing lists/forums and considers their reputation =20 important. You're dealing with exactly the opposite -- I rarely read =20= the mailing lists due to lack of time, and generally don't care what =20 people think of me as long as it doesn't get in the way of getting =20 work done. > I hope this helps you to better understand who's attacking who, and > who's being rude to who. You should perhaps start at the beginning and look at the questions I =20= asked, and then recreate the thread showing the responses to the =20 policy questions I have raised. Or just look at your own responses, which have never been less than =20 rude and not once even pretended to focus on the real questions. --=20 Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source =20 and other randomness
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