From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 20:29:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280D21065673 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C54B8FC18 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W12 ([65.55.131.47]) by bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:29:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [204.249.77.1] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: Rob Lytle , , Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:29:08 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2008 20:29:08.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[47C39B80:01C8DC82] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:29:09 -0000 > Date: Wed=2C 2 Jul 2008 11:23:48 -0700 > From: jan6146@gmail.com > To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org=3B freebsd-current@freebsd.org > CC:=20 > Subject: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years >=20 > Hi All=2C >=20 > My depressing analysis- YMMV. I've used FreeBSD since 1998. >=20 > 1..Installing the packages off of the menu on the 3 CDROMs is an incredib= ly > tedious miserable process. I had to switch out the CD's around 40 times. > If you don't believe me=2C just mark a whole bunch of random packages aft= er > obtaining the 7.0 release CD's=2C ad then install. Its frustrating and a= lmost > like Windows=2C except its a bit faster as replacing CD's is faster than > reboots. >=20 > 2. When installing any given package=2C if a dependency is already there= =2C > the package aborts and then goes though some loop where you have to pres= s > OK half a dozen times. Thats insane. >=20 > I think the CD switching problem would be to install all the packages at > once from CD1=2C then CD2=2C then CD3. As for the second case=2C I don't= know > enough about the infrastructure to suggest any thing except to perhaps > comment that code in its entirety or put in switch to bypass already > installed dependencies. >=20 > I wish I knew more about your infrastructure to fix this myself. Is it > written in Python? Thats the only language I'm not so rusty at. I've > programmed in 5 languages=2C but that was long ago. I'm old. But someon= e who > knows the system could probably fix it fast. I think this is such an > inherent infrastructure problem that has existed so long that a bug repor= t > would be futile. >=20 > Food for thought. Thanks=2C This is the reason I install everything from ports. The packages were divided into understandable clusters to make them fit on = CDs. Perhaps you would benefit from getting the DVD ISO instead which has e= verything together. Im sure someone on the list could provide you the link = for it or google for it. -Sean