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Date:      Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:59:46 +0300
From:      Valentin Nechayev <netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua>
To:        Harold Gutch <520066542279-0001@t-online.de>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!
Message-ID:  <20010826085946.A342@iv.nn.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20010825223907.A44732@foobar.franken.de>; from 520066542279-0001@t-online.de on Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 10:39:07PM %2B0200
References:  <200108222330.f7MNUUj80882@earth.backplane.com> <20010822183807.T81307@elvis.mu.org> <200108222347.f7MNlF781161@earth.backplane.com> <20010825223907.A44732@foobar.franken.de>

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 Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 22:39:07, 520066542279-0001 (Harold Gutch) wrote about "Re: ssh password cracker - now this *is* cool!": 

> Dug Song and Solar Designer held a talk on this topic at HAL 2001,
> where they stated that backspaces could be detected, as a
> backspace actually translated to <Cursorleft><Space><Cursorleft>
> thus sending 3 characters at a time instead of only 1.

3 characters will be sent AFAIU in protocol 1 case, but not in protocol 2
due to its buffering and sending after delay, which exists either in OpenSSH
and finnish SSH. As protocol 2 is considered now as The Only Right Thing,
this isn't issue anymore. Please correct me if server side with protocol 2
doesn't do it.

I'm unhappy with protocol 2 due to delays mentioned above; it gives
very uncomfortable redrawing delays even on 100MB ethernet link.
On dialup line these delays become intolerable.


/netch

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