Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:49:55 -0300 From: Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> To: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Claws Mail (was: What the hell starts pulseaudio?!) Message-ID: <CA%2ByoEx9pPsr=pdOfaPj%2B15DY2VRNsCNhbusTf7_pmqtsjROS-A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <96e71feb5264b8a9afa42cebcd7f2e6bdaf5c31c.camel@riseup.net> References: <20210718134409.5e8d545a@archlinux> <14b675f9-a4fd-608f-719c-b26274fcc2b6@gmail.com> <351c2b55514490582d42e6434d90fefebaaf3eb2.camel@riseup.net> <96e71feb5264b8a9afa42cebcd7f2e6bdaf5c31c.camel@riseup.net>
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On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 15:28 Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> wrote: > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 20:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 17:07 +0000, Roderick wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > Note, I forwarded this quote from Paul, a Claws developer... > > > > > > I'm not understanding what this "CLIENT ID" is that you are talking > > > > about, if it is not OAuth2. But OAuth2 is not automatic in > claws-mail, > > > > and it is not (currently?) necessary for connecting to gmail servers. > > > > > > There is some pressure from google. One must continuously enable > > > "less secure apps", otherwise OAuth2 is the only alternative. > > > > ...and the Claws developer knows all this, but there's a lot of > > confusion by users. > > > > The reason that I described how it works for Yahoo is, to explain users > > (not the developer), that the passwords by the well known Claws settings > > get replaced by passwords, that were generated by the Yahoo > > Webinterface. Nothing does change when using Claws, just the password is > > generated by Yahoo. There is nothing "two" things whatsoever. It's all > > the same password usage as before, just that Yahoo generates the > > password for each external mail client accessing a Yahoo account, as > > described by > > > https://uk.help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/learn-generate-third-party-passwords-sln15241.html > > . Old passwords don't work anymore, there was the need to replace the > > old passwords, by those new generated passwords. For Google it's > > probably the same. > > PS: "Use this app password and your email address to sign in to your > email app." This claim from Yahoo is confusing, since complete bogus. > The password and the email address are used by the email client to > access the Yahoo servers. Nobody of us needs to sign in with it to use > our email clIent > This is all really confusing to me.
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