Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:42:42 -1000 From: "parv/FreeBSD" <parv.0zero9+freebsd@gmail.com> To: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware recommendation Message-ID: <CABObuOp9KSddnzq6Etubagjbut8RQZJ7uwDHNVTm=Fo_ACZXJQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <25275.14490.634554.58598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <25275.14490.634554.58598@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
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--00000000000020af8405e2907e42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:23 AM Robert Huff wrote: > > A disk drive on one of my machines is dying. > I'd like to replace it with a _reliable_ (the old one lasted 10+ > years at moderate loads) consumer-grade SATA II or higher drive of at > least 500 gbytes. > Any particular product lines getting consistantly good reviews? > And what should I avoid like flesh-eating bacteria? > Some anecdotes ... - My laptops ... -- ThinkPad X260 c 2017 has been running original 2.5" Seagate 500 GB disk (ST500LM021); -- other laptop has 500 GB M.2 WD Blue <something>570 or (750) NVMe PCIe 3 SSD. For unrelated reasons, I do not use it much. - At work ... -- boot+OS SSD ... ---- using mostly Samsung 8x0 EVO SATA III SSDs as boot+OS disks in mostly CentOS [68]/Rocky Linux machines & a few of FreeBSD 13 machines; ---- recently got 3 machines with 500 GB Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe PCIe 3 SSDs as boot+OS disks (one machine has 2x M.2 slots, so that got ZFS mirror with FreeBSD 14; other 2 are single-SSD Rocky Linux ones); -- Data archive with 4 separate ZFS RAID-Z[23] arrays (all disks were|are CMR; FreeBSD 1[0-3]) ... ---- about 8 of 32 4TB WD Red NAS disks failed in ~2 years while in use in 4 separate ZFS RAID-Z2 arrays (8 disks/array); ---- ~1-3 of 24 6TB WD Red Pro NAS disks failed in ~2 years in 2 separate -Z3 arrays (12 disks/array); ---- currently using 6TB WD Red Pro NAS disks in 2 separate -Z2 arrays (6 disks/array, taken from above -Z3 arrays), and 14TB Seagate Exos16 disks in 2 separate -Z3 arrays (7 disks/vdev, 2 vdevs/array) for just shy of 2 years; ---- One 14TB Seagate disk was dead on arrival. But I did not find out within the return period of the retailer; had to settle for likely refurbished disk from Seagate than much preferred outright new-replacement from the retailer. FWIW; YMMV; etc. - parv --00000000000020af8405e2907e42 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace">On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:23 AM Robert Huff wrote:<br><= /div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi= ng-left:1ex"><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A disk drive on one of my machines is dying.<br= > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'd like to replace it with a _reliable_ (t= he old one lasted 10+<br> years at moderate loads) consumer-grade SATA II or higher drive of at<br> least 500 gbytes.<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Any particular product lines getting consistant= ly good reviews?<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 And what should I avoid like flesh-eating bacte= ria?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:monospac= e" class=3D"gmail_default">Some anecdotes ...</div></div><div><div style=3D= "font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">- My laptops ...<br></div><div = style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">-- ThinkPad X260 c = 2017 has been running original 2.5" Seagate 500 GB</div><div style=3D"= font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">disk (ST500LM021);</div><div= style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div sty= le=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">-- other laptop has 50= 0 GB M.2 WD Blue <something>570 or (750)</div><div style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">NVMe PCIe 3 SSD. For unrelated reason= s, I do not use it much.<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" clas= s=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D= "gmail_default">- At work ...</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" cla= ss=3D"gmail_default">-- boot+OS SSD ...<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:= monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">---- using mostly Samsung 8x0 EVO SATA I= II SSDs as boot+OS disks in mostly</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace= " class=3D"gmail_default">CentOS [68]/Rocky Linux machines & a few of F= reeBSD 13 machines;</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmai= l_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_de= fault">---- recently got 3 machines with 500 GB Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe PCIe 3= SSDs</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">as = boot+OS disks (one machine has 2x M.2 slots, so that got ZFS mirror</div><d= iv style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">with FreeBSD 14;= other 2 are single-SSD Rocky Linux ones);<br></div><div style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:m= onospace" class=3D"gmail_default">-- Data archive with 4 separate ZFS RAID-= Z[23] arrays (all disks were|are</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" = class=3D"gmail_default">CMR; FreeBSD 1[0-3]) ...<br></div><div style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">---- about 8 of 32 4TB WD Red N= AS disks failed in ~2 years</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class= =3D"gmail_default">while in use in 4 separate ZFS RAID-Z2 arrays (8 disks/a= rray);<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default= "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">--= -- ~1-3 of 24 6TB WD Red Pro NAS disks failed in ~2 years in</div><div styl= e=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">2 separate -Z3 arrays (= 12 disks/array);</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_d= efault"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_defau= lt">---- currently using 6TB WD Red Pro NAS disks in 2 separate -Z2</div><d= iv style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">arrays (6 disks/= array, taken from above -Z3 arrays), and 14TB Seagate</div><div style=3D"fo= nt-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">Exos16 disks in 2 separate -Z3= arrays (7 disks/vdev, 2 vdevs/array) for</div><div style=3D"font-family:mo= nospace" class=3D"gmail_default">just shy of 2 years;<br></div><div style= =3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"= font-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">---- One 14TB Seagate disk w= as dead on arrival. But I did not find out within the</div><div style=3D"fo= nt-family:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">return period of the retailer;= had to settle for likely refurbished disk from</div><div style=3D"font-fam= ily:monospace" class=3D"gmail_default">Seagate than much preferred outright= new-replacement from the retailer.</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospac= e" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" c= lass=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" class= =3D"gmail_default">FWIW; YMMV; etc.<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:mono= space" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospac= e" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" c= lass=3D"gmail_default">- parv</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" cla= ss=3D"gmail_default"><br></div></div></div></div> --00000000000020af8405e2907e42--
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