Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:14:50 -0700 From: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> To: Freebsd-mono <freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> Subject: Fwd: Help Wanted - Work with MSFT and help finish the port of .NET Core to FreeBSD Message-ID: <CABx9NuTetG%2BOLH1DsXW8XAvSKYCAzLw=ZnMpPVOKrGXgBVPgJQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CABx9NuRTUbCqnDt13TFQX_V7Z1Ys8RiStA9PMxcgjPCAdkdjAA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAFA=8-YkPH%2BCQFNJkqfLv6zh0RhcgPG17tLNS8FkCOGNJwpJ5g@mail.gmail.com> <8bf8731c-65e8-fc43-4bfc-658b269067c3@rawbw.com> <CABx9NuRTUbCqnDt13TFQX_V7Z1Ys8RiStA9PMxcgjPCAdkdjAA@mail.gmail.com>
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Yuri, I apologize, I thought this went to everyone. I didn't mean to single you out. :) My comments below... Russ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Help Wanted - Work with MSFT and help finish the port of .NET Core to FreeBSD To: Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> wrote: > On 09/03/17 17:54, Geoffrey Huntley wrote: >> >> Seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHllisWOCpU and >> https://twitter.com/GeoffreyHuntley/status/904227946084294656 > > > > Is there a body of software that requires .Net? I never came across anything > great that needed .Net to run. > > In other words, why is this needed and who is going to use it? There are literally millions of DotNet applications that are running in companies of varying sizes around the world that could be easily converted to run on FreeBSD without a user being any the wiser, especially Asp.net applications (a huge chunk of that). There are many companies looking to get DotNet applications off of expensive operating systems and onto cheap FOSS operating systems that require no licensing and very little upgrading. From my experience people looking to convert over from MS.Net to Mono have always had *some reason* to not make the switch (real or imagined). DotNet Core offers the first truly cross platform opportunity for most Microsoft shops. Further, FreeBSD offers a unique opportunity for companies to take application code and close it off as an appliance (virtual or physical) and protect intellectual property in a way that GPL licensed OSes can't. This can be easily seen in Sony Playstation 3 & 4 and the NetApp appliance as models for very profitable closed source applications of FreeBSD. I've very effectively run Samba4 on FreeBSD as a complete AD replacement in a small scale test. One could conceivably remove a lot of licensing for Servers and Client Access Licenses by moving over to a FreeBSD based system. As someone with experience in both large scale IT and embedded systems, the RAD application development that DotNet offers is fantastic. It's like building working space shuttles out of Lego. Microsoft lost badly in the OS wars on the phones and is loosing on the cheap tablets as well. The are not gaining much in Web Servers and starting to see losses in IT systems to Linux. The local school system where I am from has moved completely to Ubuntu (and it shows in the three week downtime in their email systems). The MS solution to GNU/Linux and all FOSS is to do what they do best: absorb the technology. They have created the Microsoft Subsystem For Linux, which allows them to natively run Linux system calls in the NT Kernel. They have moved their business model to the cloud and are looking to embrace FOSS just like Amazon and Google do. In order to keep their technologies relevant, they now need to allow DotNet to run on GNU/Linux and other FOSS systems. As someone that embraces all technology, I see this as an excellent thing. Russ
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