Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 07:38:58 +0100 From: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs Message-ID: <CADLo83-bAYkxQmYK0XHhecMcGGPYSzB=HVmHm1GheENrrpqEnA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110910004553.610dc809@cox.net> References: <4E651DCF.30605@FreeBSD.org> <201109052146.p85Lkous037023@fire.js.berklix.net> <CADLo838dMd5=TjRF5ffiaPH7o0%2BpeWgaqbQqEfDb3EP-n4ec8A@mail.gmail.com> <4E67935C.6080702@aldan.algebra.com> <CADLo838QkAjq2jPXy_c5MTYW09tZJMvWTNndo3Pnfa3=1c-5Og@mail.gmail.com> <4E68AC85.4060705@icritical.com> <4E68F34C.6090504@FreeBSD.org> <20110909040954.17733a4e@cox.net> <4E6A476D.7090800@gmx.de> <20110910004553.610dc809@cox.net>
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On 10 September 2011 06:45, Conrad J. Sabatier <conrads@cox.net> wrote: > On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:05:49 +0200 > Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote: > >> Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: >> > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 >> > Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> No, you'd use a managed installation. =A0Nobody stands there >> >> pointing a gun at your head and forces you to uninstall a port >> >> that got removed from the ports/ tree. =A0If people could recognize >> >> that, it might help get the derailed discussion back on the right >> >> track. >> > >> > You fail to take into account the case where a port may need to be >> > reinstalled. =A0An extraordinary effort is required if the port no >> > longer exists in the ports tree. >> >> If a "port may need to be reinstalled" then you failed organize proper >> backups. =A0Not a valid point here. > > Not necessarily. =A0A simple bump in library versioning could require > ports to be rebuilt. > >> > Frankly, I'm growing increasingly concerned that this push to >> > eliminate ports is getting out of control. =A0I don't much care for >> > the notion that, having invested the time in installing, >> > configuring and tuning a certain set of software packages, suddenly >> > the rug could be pulled out from under me, so to speak, in essence >> > *forcing* me to abandon using certain packages or else deal with >> > maintaining them (in the ports maintainer sense) on my own. >> >> The rug is pulled by the upstream maintainers abandoning their >> software, not by FreeBSD no longer packaging it years after the fact. > > While I understand the reasoning behind this, I still feel that as long > as a package continues to build and run without any known issues, then > why be in a rush to drop it? =A0The argument that "the ports collection > is not a museum" is valid to some degree, but if a package is still > usable (and useful), then aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by > dropping it? > Can we please change the subject line? Most of us are in agreement that this particular case is not that questionable. This thread is for volunteers to fix cfs. Chris
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