Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:29:04 +0000 From: Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: Olivier Smedts <olivier@gid0.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade -> portmaster Rosetta Stone? Message-ID: <CADLo8393jAyLKY6Aq3TBv=BKkhNnvzghn%2BNYO6J97Rk2ATAZ_Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F4C092F.8080804@FreeBSD.org> References: <CA%2BE3k93doEmK7YpiZLgBCB5WUmOeCCLLLQBak_-Nx8sGqiafhQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABzXLYM47FjwmEvKijOp41Hn0KhTTPJ-dnX58PxTS8oUff-THQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F4BA7CE.20107@FreeBSD.org> <CABzXLYMVf3JU6Q=mXHV3ddPvKjWmNtWKsbcTWy9FjPOnNYoMLw@mail.gmail.com> <CAF6rxgnNHBOt8NibEr=Vgmqw9bTPmG7tG7s6e-dAHrtbbtjXOA@mail.gmail.com> <4F4BCF87.6070209@FreeBSD.org> <CABzXLYP==pMzme6yD-g8wosff3YHDR_%2BSeaBQuQtaHyocJoFPA@mail.gmail.com> <4F4BE02D.4020907@FreeBSD.org> <CABzXLYN%2Byb_dZcYPJegXD9_tk49KjdRcH1oj1QJgMXBfnmdGyA@mail.gmail.com> <4F4C092F.8080804@FreeBSD.org>
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On 27 Feb 2012 22:53, "Doug Barton" <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote: > > On 2/27/2012 12:04 PM, Olivier Smedts wrote: > > 2012/2/27 Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>: > >> On 2/27/2012 11:53 AM, Olivier Smedts wrote: > >>> What about a command line flag to ignore errors during backup package > >>> creation? > >> > >> What about ... no. :) > > > > Don't get me wrong, portmaster is a great tool, reliable, and I'm > > using it nearly daily. > > > > But why not, if there's a reason ? "potential foot shooting" ? > > It's a general philosophy thing that is common to mergemaster and > portmaster. I feel *incredibly* strongly that it's important for key > system management tools to *not* make unsafe assumptions. I (and by > extension the tools that I write) have no way to know what changes are > mission-critical to a given user. Therefore, I have *no business* > merrily blowing stuff away that the user may have been depending on. > > In the particular case of creating backup packages, with or without the > -b option, the default assumption is that those packages are being > *relied* on by the user to roll back an update in case of catastrophe. > For users that don't care about what happens with the backup packages > there is already a command line option to disable creation of them. My > assumption is that if the user is not using the option to disable them > altogether that the backup packages must have value. (Also, a > meta-issue, if the ports developers are doing their jobs then backup > package creation failure should be an incredibly rare occurrence.) +1 You could always email the maintainer with the OPTIONS you've used if you get this error; it'll then get fixed! Chris
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