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Date:      Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:37:59 -0500
From:      Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:35 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:

>
>
> On 3/28/22 22:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>
> >       Many of them may share the frustrations but have their hands full
> > with what they're already doing. So if something is not being addressed
> it
> > means that there is nobody who cares enough and has the time and the
> skills
> > to address it. Which means that for it to happen someone who does has t=
o
> > step up and make it happen and not someone who is already giving their
> time
> > to something they feel is more important/interesting/doable/fun/...
> they're
> > doing their bit in their own way.
>
> This.
>
> The open source world has produced so much for so many for little to not
> reward for their time and effort, that it has created an expectation
> that everyone's problem has, more than likely, been already fixed by
> someone else. And that if that problem has no fix, well then, "someone
> has to fix it".
>
> I think it's important to remind folk that the open source world is not
> some conglomerate, with tons of buildings hosting thousands of
> developers being paid by the second. No. It's men and women in everyday
> clothing and slippers, sitting in their studies, living rooms, bedrooms
> and neighborhood cafes, at 3AM coding the ideas that struck them earlier
> in the shower.
>
> Mark.
>
> This is a great response and reminder.  I would only add that these
developers also have family members and pets that both demand and deserve
their time.  They don=E2=80=99t just exist for us; and they deserve their t=
ime.

Andrew

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<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:35 PM Mark Tinka &lt;mark@tinka.a=
frica&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><br>
<br>
On 3/28/22 22:31, Steve O&#39;Hara-Smith wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Many of them may share the frustrations but =
have their hands full<br>
&gt; with what they&#39;re already doing. So if something is not being addr=
essed it<br>
&gt; means that there is nobody who cares enough and has the time and the s=
kills<br>
&gt; to address it. Which means that for it to happen someone who does has =
to<br>
&gt; step up and make it happen and not someone who is already giving their=
 time<br>
&gt; to something they feel is more important/interesting/doable/fun/... th=
ey&#39;re<br>
&gt; doing their bit in their own way.<br>
<br>
This.<br>
<br>
The open source world has produced so much for so many for little to not <b=
r>
reward for their time and effort, that it has created an expectation <br>
that everyone&#39;s problem has, more than likely, been already fixed by <b=
r>
someone else. And that if that problem has no fix, well then, &quot;someone=
 <br>
has to fix it&quot;.<br>
<br>
I think it&#39;s important to remind folk that the open source world is not=
 <br>
some conglomerate, with tons of buildings hosting thousands of <br>
developers being paid by the second. No. It&#39;s men and women in everyday=
 <br>
clothing and slippers, sitting in their studies, living rooms, bedrooms <br=
>
and neighborhood cafes, at 3AM coding the ideas that struck them earlier <b=
r>
in the shower.<br>
<br>
Mark.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>This is a great response and reminder.=C2=A0 I wou=
ld only add that these developers also have family members and pets that bo=
th demand and deserve their time.=C2=A0 They don=E2=80=99t just exist for u=
s; and they deserve their time.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Andrew</div></div>

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