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Date:      Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:10:02 +0400
From:      Gleb Popov <arrowd@freebsd.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Importing mksh in base
Message-ID:  <CALH631keUjj8qUomFY4nT2Mij9T7AWwFEGLDok=6zaaPx4T8DQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net>
References:  <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net>

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On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:58 PM Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to import mksh in base, https://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm
> And make it the default root shell (not necessary in one step)
>
> Why:
> 1/ it is tiny 400k (in the packaged version) all other shells fitting the
> expectation are bigger
> 2/ it's default frontend in interactive mode is very close to what most
> people
> are used to with bash


Are there FreeBSD users that are used to bash? If not, this proposal looks
like another "let's do like Linux" thing.

and shells as default root shell on other BSD and most
> linuxes
> 3/ from my narrow window csh as a default root shell is one of the major
> complaint (usually the first thing a user get faced to) from new comers and
> also for some long timers who are reinstalling a machine and have not yet
> installed/configured a bourne compatible shell
>
> What this proposal is _NOT_ about:
> 1/ the removal of tcsh from base
> 2/ any kid of denial of the quality and interest or features of csh
>
> What do you think?
> Best regards,
> Bapt
>



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