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Date:      Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:43:54 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Micke Josefsson <mj@isy.liu.se>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, GoodleafJ@immunex.com
Subject:   RE: OT question -- Books on OS basics
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010606114354.mj@isy.liu.se>
In-Reply-To: <001001c0ee56$53838420$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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There is a hardware oriented book called Computer Architecture 
by Retter et al. It focuses on how to make a generic RISC in hardware but goes
into DETAIL on what the OS expects from a processor. And also runs into
different filesystem approaches and definately expects the OS to be unixlike. 

I have had many hours of fun with this book. (says perhaps more about me than
about he book:)


On 06-Jun-01 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Lest we forget, "The Design and Implementation of the
> 4.4 BSD Operating System" by Kirk McKusick is another
> one on OS theory.
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
>>GoodleafJ@immunex.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:39 AM
>>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>Subject: Re: OT question -- Books on OS basics
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the responses so far. As always, I appreciate everyone's
>>willingness to help. In this case though I probably didn't explain well
>>what I was looking for. I was hoping for theory books on operating systems.
>>I'm already acquainted with The Complete FreeBSD and the Handbook. (Thanks
>>though.) I want something that will explain different approaches to virtual
>>memory, or how the softupdates approach to filesystem management is
>>different from the journaling filesystem approach. So I'm not looking
>>specifically for FreeBSD stuff, but for OS stuff on a more abstract plane.
>>Thanks,
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                    "Jonathan
>>
>>                    Slivko"              To:
>><GoodleafJ@immunex.com>, jeremy-novak <pr0cy0n@home.com>
>>                    <js43064n@pac        cc:
>><freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
>>                    e.edu>               Subject:     Re: OT
>>question -- Books on OS basics
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>>                    06/05/01
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>>                    09:29 AM
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>>                    Please
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>>                    respond to
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>>                    js43064n
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>>"The FreeBSD Handbook" (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) is also
>>available in hardcover, it's a very good book :)
>>-- Jonathan
>>
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>>Jonathan M. Slivko <js43064n@pace.edu>
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>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: jeremy-novak <pr0cy0n@home.com>
>>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:27 -0600
>>
>>>On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:27:53AM -0700, GoodleafJ@immunex.com
>>
>>wrote:
>>>> For personal reasons, I'm interested in learning about
>>
>>operating systems
>>>> from a theoretical perspective. Here's the thing:
>>>>
>>>>  - I don't have a background in computer science.
>>>>  - I need something basic.
>>>>  - Please recommend something if you know of a good book(s).
>>>>
>>>> I'm prepared to accept the possibility that there is no basic
>>
>>book on
>>>> operating systems accessible to a reasonably computer-saavy
>>
>>person with no
>>>> CS background. In this case, can you suggest an intro to CS
>>
>>that might give
>>>> me a background from which to proceed?
>>>>
>>>> In short, I'd like to get up to speed, and I'm willing to do
>>
>>any amount of
>>>> reading; I just want the shortest path first, so to speak.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>> John
>>>
>>>  Hi John
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I really don't know what single book covers this
>>
>>topic. This very topic is a two years of coursework at my
>>
>>university. And honesstly I really
>>> don't know a whole lot about Micro$oft, haven't played with it
>>
>>for a couple of  years. I can tell you that 'The Complete FreeBSD'
>>
>>by Greg Lehey and published
>>> by Walnut Creek CDROM Books http://www.cdrom.com/ is the best
>>
>>starter book
>>> for anything in the *nix category. It covers some history,
>>
>>comparitive
>>> differences between *nix and MS structure/commands, easy to
>>
>>understand
>>> chapters on all key phases of running the OS. If you are just
>>
>>looking for
>>> a book that will not bruise the brain too much, yet be very
>>
>>educational
>>> and have the ability to intelligently compare the 'popular'
>>
>>OS's, this is
>>> 'the' book.
>>>
>>> But be carefull john. I did some similar research in 96'-97',
>>
>>and I got
>>> toatally hooked. Today I don't own one single piece of M$
>>
>>software.
>>> To quote 'a famous greek phillosopher' - "Once the mind is
>>
>>stretched by
>>> new ideas, it can never re-take it's former shape". I 'was' a
>>
>>junior year
>>> finance major who willing and ready, threw it all away to become
>>
>>a C.S. major.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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