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Date:      Tue, 08 May 2001 09:28:10 -0400
From:      the-beach <sam2539@the-beach.net>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Isn't the freebsd.org mail server too paranoid?
Message-ID:  <B71D6CAA.6949%sam2539@the-beach.net>
In-Reply-To: <003001c0d7a5$a74d2380$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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>   Maybe you better consider
> the possibility that the ISP _is_ right, and "the-beach"
> _is_ crazy.  Before throwing any more bottles can we get
> some accountability here?  Like perhaps some more details
> before flying off the handle?  Let's see some names and
> IP numbers please!!!!

Charter has bought up a lot of cable companies. The Charter I get my
connection from is the-beach-net.

Registrant:
Charter Communications, LLC (THE-BEACH8-DOM)
   12444 Powerscourt Drive, Suite 100
   St. Louis, MO 63131
   US

   Domain Name: THE-BEACH.NET

# nslookup
> server ns1.root.com
Default Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178
> set q=MX
> the-beach.net
Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

the-beach.net   preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.the-beach.net
the-beach.net   nameserver = server01.the-beach.net
the-beach.net   nameserver = server02.the-beach.net
mail.the-beach.net      internet address = 209.187.153.19
mail.the-beach.net      internet address = 209.187.153.21
server01.the-beach.net  internet address = 209.187.153.2
server02.the-beach.net  internet address = 209.187.153.3

# nslookup
> server ns1.root.com
Default Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

> mail.the-beach.net
Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    mail.the-beach.net
Addresses:  209.187.153.19, 209.187.153.21

> 209.187.153.19
Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

*** Request to ns1.root.com timed-out
> 209.187.153.21
Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

*** Request to ns1.root.com timed-out
> set q=NS
> the-beach.net
Server:  ns1.root.com
Address:  209.102.106.178

Non-authoritative answer:
the-beach.net   nameserver = server01.the-beach.net
the-beach.net   nameserver = SERVER02.the-beach.net

##Now look here, even the reverse on their own nameserver isn't pointing at
the mail server.

# nslookup
> server server01.the-beach.net
Default Server:  server01.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.2

> mail.the-beach.net
Server:  server01.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.2

Name:    mail.the-beach.net
Addresses:  209.187.153.19, 209.187.153.21

> 209.187.153.19
Server:  server01.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.2

Name:    server05.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.19

> 209.187.153.21
Server:  server01.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.2

Name:    server07.the-beach.net
Address:  209.187.153.21

##Let's start at the top and see.

# nslookup
> server A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
Default Server:  A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
Address:  198.41.0.4

> 153.187.209.in-addr.arpa.
Server:  A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
Address:  198.41.0.4

Name:    153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
Served by:
- DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
          199.191.128.106
          187.209.IN-ADDR.ARPA

> server DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.net
Default Server:  DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
Address:  199.191.128.106

Name:    153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
Served by:
- ns01.convergence.com
          207.53.75.8
          153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
- ns01.half-moon.net

          153.187.209.in-addr.arpa

> server ns01.convergence.com
Default Server:  ns01.convergence.com
Address:  207.53.75.8

> mail.the-beach.net
Server:  ns01.convergence.com
Address:  207.53.75.8

*** Request to ns01.convergence.com timed-out
> 209.187.153.19
Server:  ns01.convergence.com
Address:  207.53.75.8

*** Request to ns01.convergence.com timed-out
> server ns01.half-moon.net
*** Can't find address for server ns01.half-moon.net: Timed out

Had enough?

Flying off the handle.
Cart before the horse.
Jump the gun.
Something about babies and bathwater...fat ladies... |)



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