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Date:      Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:05:15 GMT
From:      "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net>
To:        "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: disable traceroute to my host
Message-ID:  <20010627190515.40295.qmail@d170h113.resnet.uconn.edu>
In-Reply-To: <003701c0ff37$e229faa0$01000001@book> 
References:  <006a01c0fb6b$2d64d830$9865fea9@book> <771487721300.20010623150519@SECURITY.NNOV.RU> <009201c0fdad$57c2af00$9865fea9@book> <3181060651.20010626150813@SECURITY.NNOV.RU> <20010627071504.P95583@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <79255173079.20010627114324@SECURITY.NNOV.RU> <003701c0ff37$e229faa0$01000001@book>

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alexus writes:

> from someone earlier post.. i suggest to check this out 
> 
> http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/icmp-parameters 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "3APA3A" <3APA3A@SECURITY.NNOV.RU>
> To: "Peter Jeremy" <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
> Cc: "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>; <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:43 AM
> Subject: Re[2]: disable traceroute to my host 
> 
> 
>> Hello Peter, 
>>
>> 
>>
>> --Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 1:15:04 AM, you wrote to
> 3APA3A@SECURITY.NNOV.RU:
>>
>> PJ> On 2001-Jun-26 15:08:13 +0400, 3APA3A <3APA3A@SECURITY.NNOV.RU> wrote:
>> >>deny ICMP from (YOURNETWORK) to any icmptypes 0,3,11 out
>> >>
>> >>0 - to stop windows traceroute and ping
>> >>3 - to stop BSD-style traceroute
>> >>11 - to prevent intermediate router to reply traceroute 
>>
>> PJ> Blocking ICMP type 3 will break Path-MTU discovery (which relies on
>> PJ> type 3 code 4). 
>>
>> It's  possible  to combine - deny incoming UDP and outgoing ICMP types
>> 0, 11. 
>>
>> In  any  case  - there are thousand ways to discover route. Use NAT to
>> hide internal network. 
>>
>> PJ> Peter 
>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> ~/3APA3A
>> Всегда будем рады послушать ваше чириканье (Твен) 
>>
>> 
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There's no significant reason to block traceroute (and ICMP types). First, 
it doesn't improve your "security" (well maybe your false sense of 
security). Second, blocking ICMP types breaks the RFC(s), which means that 
in some cases, routing breaks etc. This has been discussed in length on the 
list before; you can read it yourself.
Third, please try to read all the mail in a thread before posting 11 times 
to 11 messages in a row. 

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Peter C. Lai
University of Connecticut
Dept. of Residential Life | Programmer
Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology |
Undergraduate Research Assistant/Honors Program
http://cowbert.2y.net/ 

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