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Date:      Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:40:17 +1030
From:      Brian Astill <bastill@sa.apana.org.au>
To:        "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, "Mike" <mike@sixpak.net>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X
Message-ID:  <01012016444104.02698@PhD_1.testname.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <008201c0827c$e1ba1c40$847e03cb@apana.org.au>
References:  <001801c0827a$60a63460$020aa8c0@sixpak.net> <008201c0827c$e1ba1c40$847e03cb@apana.org.au>

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Strange....
I tried to install RH6.2 on free space on my second HD.  It balked (permanently)
when it came to installing X.
Then I obtained FreeBSD 4.2.  Installed X with no trouble at all.
The monitor is a cheap generic SVGA, the card Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro (4MB).

Does this mean that certain combinations of HW & SW simply won't work together?
I still don't understand why RH would not install, where FreeBSD went "like a
charm" when SFAIK the versions of Xfree86 are the same.

Brian.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Doug Young wrote:
> 
> I've had exactly the same problems several times when I tried to install X, haven't been too concerned because my main use for FreeBSD has been gateway boxes that are probably better off wihout X anyway (seems most experts believe so for security reasons).
> 
>  Occasionally I get a 3.x "X" setup to work fine (never once a 4.x) although its not consistent enough to use regularly. I still have nightmares from my linux (gasp, cough, splutter) days thinking about KDE lockups / crashes etc and haven't yet used XFCE sufficiently to feel at homewith it .......If I really want a Unix GUI then I install Solaris 8 which works properly EVERY time & has reliable support for applications I use  (particularly StarOffice / Oracle that as far as I'm aware are still quite experimental in FreeBSD). For what its worth, X is probably fairly straightforward but like most things its just the inadequate explanation about configuring it that causes lots of people so much aggro. 
> 
> If I did have a pressing need for FreeBSD 4.x / XFree something / StarOffice I'd be browsing sites like freebsddiary.org, bsdvault.net, mostgraveconcern (links from previous sites) which generally have docomentation better suited to us non-experts than official stuff like the Handbook etc.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>   From: Mike 
>   To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG 
>   Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:46 AM
>   Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 and X
> 
> 
>   I've tried installing from CD (4.0)
>   I've tried installing from ftp (4.2)
>   I've tried installing the 5.0 current
>   ...
>   and in each case somehow the installation goes wacked when it comes to X.
> 
>   Everytime I try to run XF86Setup it pauses for 30 seconds and tells me it can't initialize the (X) server.
> 
>   What I WANT to do is install minimally, adding things as I learn and grow, not have everything but the kitchen sink installed and then try to make sense of it.  But whenever it comes to X, I'm cursed.
> 
>   One time I got it running correctly, but somehow I ended up with parts of XFree 3.3.3 and XFree4.0 mixed up.  It was a confusing mess.  So I'm starting over for the 20th+ time.
> 
>   Is anyone else having install problems with X?  What kind of install are you doing (I'm doing X-User, maybe I should go with developer to get source files?) and what version of FreeBSD are you using? (I'm TRYING to get 4.2 to work)
> 
>   Any help appreciated.
> 
>   Mike
> 
> 

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Regards,
Brian

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