Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 02:09:15 +0100 From: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bugzilla, bureaucracy and obstacles Message-ID: <7b05fa54-709e-754b-173d-66085d485e4d@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> References: <6D24E23B-1F79-47E9-B533-361188502BEA@lassitu.de> <76ad55a3-46c2-146e-6005-b300dc911e1c@freebsd.org> <CAGwOe2ao3QHttEaYL3=MpQgJ_u64fXLLwdF7o09Jtcbhi5kacA@mail.gmail.com> <05a2883a-c7ee-add7-9fd3-2b3d7c60876a@freebsd.org> <CAGwOe2Y4cTeMv31BSCACjV38R1E_iLEHbh=ifeobDHDOyMHbMg@mail.gmail.com> <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com>
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I can say as a long-time Maintainer; that <br> the solicitation for feedback is automated in the sense that Bugzilla determines <br> whom the Maintainer is and CC's them. <br> </blockquote> <p>Thanks; true enough. <br> </p> <p>Whilst the maintainer's address does not appear in the CC field, there is addressing with relation to the maintainer-feedback flag. <br> </p> <p>See, for example, the Bugzilla-automated beginning to the history at today's <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://bugs.freebsd.org= /bugzilla/show_activity.cgi?id=3D272586"><https://bugs.freebsd.org/bug= zilla/show_activity.cgi?id=3D272586></a>. <br> </p> </body> <lt-container></lt-container> </html> --------------hASJCRE7V8TQcYhdHtugypdt-- --------------Kh9Uj2OJL7ZBUrHuiKUrhpm0-- --------------0pST7DOfBROTdkmj25fksvDS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsF5BAABCAAjFiEEWT/lssMHB+28ly8Kt2dIb0oY1AsFAmS3N7sFAwAAAAAACgkQt2dIb0oY1Atl UA/+MGZDQQmCCsTwJR0oNDOc2rp9oXqyI/A87VLwL0dA/QgYN3JOky8Ep8xIzFT8l/9BWO5AYuZr rMXTnfSGNRglqlodLLRmGaD6bM9scwI1Py9ealnn9UrdjFdOJCCoqcxU/DxVDgQqNGAC6CFl8qG3 d+DdXOxACe85Y2NMKqD8lRO6gLPy1U1x03QyucivVD7CouI8AD0Po8RQwt+6uSPik7j2ufAn7+Cd 2lv3GlrSlCl85JY9cVGmk4K9njSptS4CNtlmpuiELFj6Wu/nKq2Pp2U0pOI0p+mdpT43RjARM4aR 1kTjOhUPhtsd8B8i2DobOddaW45SgmcsIz9AmTU81HHe7DbbdH/acK6AdiQ+L4Bimh/bJ1w24F6o YQ8xp7F8LBJYRsk3ftg+0+xDVycHWHHfykUenMlUxRN32vzBKP3ChkqVfs6pnwKiciy2WnsF1YsE +oaTt+RSpZN8YNhZ7etoEqLTtNZ5lAIQ7dqGyM7j0g80Xipd6LKXe3i25ekFMtzfy158Vv/u2Bev WlfH3JOGUeifzuLj3zoomVKiUBI/nT60X7CyWYJtQfOgSokAByRqL7wolg8FZEB/kaN84JvCt7jD Xq8llUAGYCsfKsJKpNcKrz726vXflcVji8gAM30bXmCWAeCLLxVW730L2FbQzk1SASjBDJf08iTw ua4= =MxEu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------0pST7DOfBROTdkmj25fksvDS--
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