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Date:      Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:11:02 -0600
From:      "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1011575462.84775a@mired.org>
To:        Ray Kohler <rkohler1@cox.rr.com>
Cc:        "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvsup/make
Message-ID:  <15428.54054.257888.68770@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <064a81655220f12FE7@mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com>
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Ray Kohler <rkohler1@cox.rr.com> types:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2002 03:25 pm, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com> types:
> > > is there a way to after i did cvsup stable-cvsupfile to do make
> > > just only whatever was downloaded from cvsup instead of the
> > > whole thing all over again?
> > Not reliably. That's why the documented method is to do the whole
> > thing all over again.
[...]
> > Be warned: [...]
> > installed. If you have any problems *at all* after updating via
> > "make install", do a "make world" to build the system with the
> > proper toolset before bothering to report it.
> I just wanted to point out (to both the asker and the answerer) 
> that this "make install" thing is certainly not a supported thing 
> to do (i. e., you can do it if you want but if Weird Things Happen 
> then most people will just say "I told you so.")

That's only half correct. "make install" isn't a supported way to
upgrade your system. However, it's a supported way to rebuild and
install userland after you go through and make changes to various
parts of the system (*).

> No rudeness/pedantry intended, but I couldn't think of a "nice" way 
> to say it and I was virtually gasping in horror at someone being 
> advised to do the equivalent of "voiding the warranty."

I don't think you were either. In fact, I like "voiding the warranty"
as a description of what this does. That's why I provided the warning
about "if you do this and something breaks, do it the supported way
before reporting it." I wouldn't have provided that advise if they
hadn't asked about methods other than the one covered by the warranty.

	<mike

*) Changing system sources on your own also "voids your warranty", of
course
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