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Date:      Sat, 17 Feb 2024 15:53:10 -0600
From:      Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>
To:        virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bhyve disk performance issue
Message-ID:  <6f6b71ac-2349-4045-9eaf-5c50d42b89be@shrew.net>
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On 2/16/24 12:00, Matthew Grooms wrote:
> On 2/16/24 11:42, Chuck Tuffli wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, at 9:19 AM, Matthew Grooms wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm in the middle of a project that involves building out a handful 
>>> of servers to host virtual Linux instances. Part of that includes 
>>> testing bhyve to see how it performs. The intent is to compare host 
>>> storage options such as raw vs zvol block devices and ufs vs zfs 
>>> disk images using hardware raid vs zfs managed disks. It would also 
>>> involve
>>>
>>>
>> …
>>>
>>> Here is a list of a few other things I'd like to try:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Wiring guest memory ( unlikely as it's 32G of 256G )
>>> 2) Downgrading the host to 13.2-RELEASE
>>
>> FWIW we recently did a similar exercise and saw significant 
>> performance differences on ZFS backed disk images when comparing 14.0 
>> and 13.2. We didn’t have time to root cause the difference, so it 
>> could simply be some tuning difference needed for 14.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> That's very helpful feedback. I'll start by downgrading the host to 
> 13.2 and report back here.
>

Unfortunately same story with 13.2. I'm going to try and downgrade to 
12.4 and see if it gets any better.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/16/24 12:00, Matthew Grooms wrote:<br>
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      On 2/16/24 11:42, Chuck Tuffli wrote:<br>
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        <div>On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, at 9:19 AM, Matthew Grooms wrote:<br>
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          <p>Hi All,<br>
          </p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <div>I'm in the middle of a project that involves building out
            a handful of servers to host virtual Linux instances. Part
            of that includes testing bhyve to see how it performs. The
            intent is to compare host storage options such as raw vs
            zvol block devices and ufs vs zfs disk images using hardware
            raid vs zfs managed disks. It would also involve<br>
          </div>
          <p><br>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <div>…<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style="">
          <p><span style="color:rgb(27, 30, 32);">Here is a list of a
              few other things I'd like to try:</span><br>
          </p>
          <div> <br>
          </div>
          <div> 1) Wiring guest memory ( unlikely as it's 32G of 256G )<br>
          </div>
          <div> 2) Downgrading the host to 13.2-RELEASE<br>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>FWIW we recently did a similar exercise and saw significant
          performance differences on ZFS backed disk images when
          comparing 14.0 and 13.2. We didn’t have time to root cause the
          difference, so it could simply be some tuning difference
          needed for 14. <br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <p>Hi Chuck,</p>
      <p>That's very helpful feedback. I'll start by downgrading the
        host to 13.2 and report back here.<br>
        <br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
      Unfortunately same story with 13.2. I'm going to try and downgrade
      to 12.4 and see if it gets any better.<br>
      <br>
    </p>
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      localhost.lo 63640M  690k  99  1.5g  97  727m  78  950k  99  1.3g 
      68 +++++ +++<br>
      Latency             11759us   29114us    8098us    8649us  
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      Version  2.00       ------Sequential Create------ --------Random
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      localhost.localdoma -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create--
      --Read--- -Delete--<br>
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      %CP  /sec %CP<br>
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      99 16204 563<br>
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