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Date:      Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:57:01 -0600
From:      denon <denon@denon.cx>
To:        pixfbsd <pixfbsd@earthlink.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD 4.8 and instabilities with Buslogic SCSI drivers  in VMWare
Message-ID:  <6.0.1.1.2.20031214015502.01f63ec0@mail.jon.com>
In-Reply-To: <1071291244.13932.1.camel@viper.dlqj.net>
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Nah, the host is Windows 2000 (host == OS actually running on the 
hardware).  The guest OS is FreeBSD (running within the virtual 
machine).  My comment, was that other guests/virtual machines running win2k 
were perfectly stable.

I decided to give up on the buslogic drivers, and just switched the FreeBSD 
over to IDE.  We'll see how that goes - hopefully it'll solve my problems. 
Much easier than playing mr bug tracker..

-d

At 10:54 PM 12/12/2003, you wrote:
>Pardon my missing this.  So your environment is FreeBSD 4.8 machine with
>VMware producing your Win2000 environment?
>
>On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 23:02, denon wrote:
> > I agree with your analysis of the 4-year old driver, though it's funny to
> > say it's in a difficult to reproduce environment.  In all actuality, a
> > software-based system would be one of the most controlled environments
> > available, removing all variables of heat, flakey hardware, etc, and
> > abstracting them from the hardware layer. VMware seems to be really 
> robust,
> > when the OS plays nicely.  (unfortunately win2k under vmware seems to be
> > extremely robust, even under high loads .. what luck.)
> >
> > This aside, I think you'll find that creating a FBSD 4.8 system in a
> > scsi-based vmware disk will reproduce it somewhat consistently. I've spoke
> > with several others having the same issue.
> >
> > You'll also take note that I'm not the guy that said this place was 
> dead. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -d
> >
> >
> > At 10:43 PM 12/11/2003, you wrote:
> > >On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> > >
> > > > It seems like this list is dead, and the developers don't care anymore.
> > > > Current is where it's at.
> > >
> > >This is patently wrong.  Please don't do this.
> > >
> > >Since this is an isolated report in a hard-to-reproduce environment
> > >(vmware), its difficult to say if this is a bug in our software or a bug
> > >in vmware. Considering the bt driver hasn't been touched in over 4 years,
> > >I'm thinking that there may be issues in vmware.
> > >
> > >I'd follow up with the vmware folks.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of denon
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:28 PM
> > > > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.8 and instabilities with Buslogic SCSI 
> drivers in
> > > > VMWare
> > > >
> > > > So there are no other thoughts on this?  I kinda figured people were
> > > > interested in squashing 4.8 bugs left and right .. :)
> > > >
> > > > -d
> > > >
> > > > At 03:25 PM 12/8/2003, you wrote:
> > > > >Responses inline:
> > > > >
> > > > >At 03:41 PM 12/7/2003, you wrote:
> > > > >>On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, denon wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > We've been doing more work with VMware and FreeBSD lately. 
> Overall
> > > it's
> > > > >> > been going well, but we have a machine that's giving me grief, 
> and I'm
> > > > a
> > > > >> > bit concerned.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It's running 4.8-Release, with a single virtual SCSI 
> drive.  It's been
> > > > >> > running fine for months, but as of recently, it's started locking
> > > > >> up.  When
> > > > >> > it locks up, this is what's in the messages:
> > > > >> > /kernel: (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xca993340 - timed out
> > > > >> > /kernel: bt0: btdone - Attempt to free non-active BCCB 0xca9933c0
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I wonder if the vmware environment is bug-for-bug compatible with 
> the old
> > > > >>buslogic hardware :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Sure seems it .. though it was stable for a long time, so I don't 
> know ..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I suspect this is a bug in vmware, where the emulated driver is 
> suffering
> > > > >>from long-term corruption. 43-day bug, perhaps?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Does stopping and starting VMware clear this up?
> > > > >
> > > > >Nope, apparently not .. I tried and its happened again today. Seems to
> > > > >happen about twice a day, but no pattern to it that I see..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-d
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