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Date:      Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:32:29 -0400
From:      "michael johnson" <ahze@ahze.net>
To:        "Joe Marcus Clarke" <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org, Andy Fawcett <andy@athame.co.uk>, kde@freebsd.org, kde-freebsd@freebsd.kde.org
Subject:   Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: Conflict between KDE and GNOME in a prefix...
Message-ID:  <b2203fed0609010632j423e26f9j8b63ba0fd67e41d7@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9/1/06, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 23:24 -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:09:37 -0500, Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:26:00 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke
> > > <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >> Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> Andy Fawcett wrote:
> > >>> Hi Joe, Mezz, Gnome, KDE,
> > >>>
> > >>> On Saturday 26 August 2006 20:50, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > >>>> On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 03:43 -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello folks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We, FreeBSD GNOME Team, have successed to move GNOME from X11BASE
> > >>>>> to LOCALBASE. There are three files that are conflict between KDE
> > >>>>> and GNOME. The two files that need to be fix in the KDE side and
> > >>>>> another file that is need to be fix both in the GNOME and KDE
> > >>>>> sides.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/conflict_prefix.txt
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu:
> > >>>>> =============================================
> > >>>>> GNOME and KDE teams will have to figure how to solve this problem.
> > >>>>> Take the looks at the other Linux distros or so would be a good
> > >>>>> start. If you have any good suggest, let us know.
> > >>>> We might need to create a small port that just handles conflicting
> > >>>> files such as this one.  applications.menu is not huge, and should
> be
> > >>>> interchangeable between GNOME and KDE.
> > >>>
> > >>> How different are the versions installed by Gnome & KDE?
> > >>>
> > >>> But yes, possibly we need an 'xdg-menu' port to cover such files.
> > >>
> > >> mezz could probably better answer this.  They should be comparable
> since
> > >> we're using the same xdg stuff.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/menu/
> > >
> > > Both KDE and GNOME applications.menu are in ~mezz/menu/, so you can
> > > compare the difference. We can either merge both of applications.menu
> > > into one or try to rename applications.menu to
> > > (kde|gnome)-applications.menu. I am not sure about <MergeFile>
> > > stuff...so.. What I have in my mind is something like this below, but
> I
> > > have no idea if it will working. If that don't work, then do either
> > > merge into one or hack all apps for rename of applications.menu.
> >
> > It doesn't work, I tried to play with it for about two hours and still
> no
> > luck with <MergeFile>. Either I need to learn more or it is limited.
> > However, it looks like that leave us two choices:
> >
> >       1) Rename both of applications.menu and hack
> >          in the ports to teach them about the new
> >          name.
> >       2) Create our own applications.menu that will
> >          working for the general desktop.
>
> I think option 2 would be best as who knows how much future hacking will
> be required if we rename the files.  I was also poking around NetBSD and
> Gentoo to see how they handle this.  These menu files are substantially
> different enough to cause some problems.  I wonder if there is a better
> solution that we're missing.  Does anyone have any insight into what
> other platforms are doing?


Debian renames these files

See the following diffs
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-menus/gnome-menus_2.15.91-1.diff.gz
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs_3.5.4-3.diff.gz

or pages
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/gnome/gnome-menus
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/kdelibs


gnome-menus:
+         if (len (menu_files) < 1):
+-            menu_files = ["applications.menu", "settings.menu"]
++            menu_files = ["gnome-applications.menu", "gnome-settings.menu
"]

kde-libs:
+-     VFolderMenu::SubMenu *kdeMenu = g_vfolder->parseMenu("
applications.menu",true);
++     VFolderMenu::SubMenu *kdeMenu = g_vfolder->parseMenu("
kde-applications.menu", true);
+


Suse renames the files also

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/kdelibs3-3.5.1-47.src.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/gnome-menus-2.12.0-29.src.rpm

>From gnome-menus.spec file

rm $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{sysconfdir}/xdg/menus/applications.menu
cp %{S:2} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{sysconfdir}/xdg/menus/applications.menu.gnome

>From kdelibs.spec file

mv $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu \
     $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.kde


IMHO I probably think we should also rename these files, it doesn't look
like it will
cause much pain to maintain from looking at the diff's from debian & suse.

Michael

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