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Date:      Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:45:15 +0800
From:      Volker Stolz <vs@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Suggestion for installation instructions
Message-ID:  <9AA32A89-5713-4DFF-BDCB-A579B5C23198@FreeBSD.ORG>
In-Reply-To: <1190175334.85751.57.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
References:  <39C3C2BB-E841-472A-B922-9089888970EB@FreeBSD.ORG> <1190175334.85751.57.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>

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--- faq2.sgml	Sat Jun 23 21:45:39 2007
+++ faq2-vs.sgml	Thu Sep 20 19:17:51 2007
@@ -113,18 +113,9 @@
 # make install clean
 	    </pre>
 
-	    <p><u>Make GNOME &gnomever; start when X starts.</u></p>
-
-	    <p>Once you have the GNOME &gnomever; desktop installed,
-	      GNOME &gnomever; can be started by adding the following line
-	      to <tt>~/.xsession</tt> or <tt>~/.xinitrc</tt>, as
-	      appropriate:</p>
-
-	    <pre>
-exec gnome-session
-	    </pre>
-
-	    </li>
+	    <p>You still need to <a href="#full-gnome">enable the
+	      GNOME services</a> to run e.g. the graphical login
+	      automatically on system startup.</p> </li>
 
 <!-- Q Full-GNOME -->
 	    <li style="padding-bottom: 0.5em"><a
@@ -141,9 +132,28 @@
 	    </pre>
 
 	    <p>This will enable services such as GDM, HAL, D-BUS, and
-	      Avahi.  If you do not want to run all of these services,
-	      you should forgo the <em>gnome_enable</em> property, and
-	      manually enable the services you want.</p>
+	      Avahi on system startup.  If you do not want to run all
+	      of these services, you should forgo the
+	      <em>gnome_enable</em> property, and manually enable the
+	      services you want.</p>
+
+	    <p>If you do not want to reboot immediately after the
+	      installation, you can invoke
+	      <tt>/usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm start</tt> as root to
+	      bring up the GNOME login screen (although this will not
+	      start the other services).</p>
+
+	    <p><u>Make GNOME &gnomever; start when X starts without
+	      using GDM.</u></p>
+
+	    <p>The GNOME &gnomever; desktop can also be started by
+	      adding the following line to <tt>~/.xsession</tt> or
+	      <tt>~/.xinitrc</tt>, as appropriate (see also
+	      <tt>startx(1)</tt>):</p>
+
+	    <pre>
+exec gnome-session
+	    </pre>
 	    </li>
 
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On 19.09.2007, at 12:15, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 15:32 +0800, Volker Stolz wrote:
>> Hi guys, I just walked a friend through a fresh FreeBSD 6.2 and GNOME
>> installation.
>>
>> May I suggest to add a note that after setting gnome_enable="YES" in
>> rc.conf as per http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 you
>> need to invoke the startup-script as root?
>> And rephrase "This will enable services such as GDM, HAL, D-BUS, and
>> Avahi" to "...on subsequent system startups" (sounds awful, but will
>> do and is precise). This is not obvious to people new to BSD.
>>
>> I strongly suggest to move the gnome_enable bit in front of the
>> section on "Make GNOME 2.18 start when X starts."
>
> It would be great if you could through all of these ideas into some
> patches, and send them on.  I'll look at getting them committed.
> Thanks.
>
> Joe
>
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