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Date:      Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:25:39 +0800
From:      TJ Varghese <tj@tjvarghese.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgr?= =?UTF-8?Q?av?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au>, Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org>
Subject:   Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
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On 12/07/2017 10:50 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
>> You can't have the latter without the former.  Assertion of identity is
>> the only protection against MITM eavesdropping or tampering.
> Or more generally:
>
> If you dont/cant trust the other end, why would you trust them to
> keep the communication secret ?
>

I'm curious as to your take on electronic banking. Should they all 
merely use HTTP since HTTPS is hopelessly compromised by design? If your 
objection is that HTTPS bring nothing to the security table, then it 
really doesn't make a difference where it's used and we should all just 
stop using it, no?






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