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Date:      Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:36:25 +0300
From:      Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFR] Adding a function to rtld-elf.so, how to handle Symbol.map?
Message-ID:  <20140718133625.GL93733@kib.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <1405689839.1312.148.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 07:23:59AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 11:14 +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 06:17:41PM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 20:29 +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:09:50AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 03:45 +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 03:23:53PM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
> > > > > [snip]
> > >=20
> > > > > I did some looking around and Netbsd, Android, and Risc Os all
> > > > > implemented this in their dynamic loaders, so that seemed like th=
e way
> > > > > to go.  Android actually puts a function with this __gnu name in =
its
> > > > > libc, but all that function does is calls dl_unwind_find_exidx() =
which
> > > > > is implemented in their loader.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I've just discovered that the arm unwind support code that will a=
rrive
> > > > > as part of clang 3.5 appears to assume the Android way of things =
unless
> > > > > __LINUX__ is defined, so maybe it would be good to follow that mo=
del
> > > > > ourselves and add a dl_unwind_find_exidx() stub to libc/gen/dlfcn=
=2Ec and
> > > > > name the new implementation in ld-elf to match.
> > > > I think that Android/__LINUX__ combination does the right thing, by
> > > > providing the symbol in libc. A libc implementation does not need a=
ny
> > > > additional service from rtld, except already existing _rtld_addr_ph=
dr().
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Android provides a stub of dl_unwind_find_exidx() in libdl and the
> > > shared-object implementation in the dynamic linker.  What it puts in
> > > libc is the __gnu_Unwind_Find_exidx() symbol, which just calls through
> > > to the dl_unwind_find_exidx() implementation in the dynamic linker.
> > >=20
> > > That aside, I've reworked my code so it all lives in libc instead of
> > > rtld, as you suggested.  It seems to work fine, and I guess I'm agnos=
tic
> > > about whether we're exporting a new function from libc versus rtld.  =
It
> > > seems a bit strange to me to have just one dl_something() function wi=
th
> > > its shared/dynamic implementation in libc, while all the other functi=
ons
> > > with dl-prefix names are implemented in rtld.  But not so weird that
> > > it's a big deal.
> > The new patch is fine with me. =20
> >=20
> > Could you, please, comment why did you decided to export the
> > dl_unwind_find_exidx alias ? It was absent in the original patch,
> > and from your description, it seems to be an implementation detail
> > on Linux.
>=20
> I think you might have misunderstood what I said earlier.  According to
> comments in some clang 3.5 sources I saw, the clang project considers
> dl_unwind_find_exidx() to be "the BSD interface" for finding the exidx
> data.  They fall back to the gnu name only when clang is compiled with
> __LINUX__ defined.  By providing the functionality with this name, clang
> 3.5 will just work right on freebsd without needing to be modified to
> also use the gnu name when __FreeBSD__ is defined.
>=20
> Android and Netbsd provide dl_unwind_find_exidx(); I haven't checked
> other BSDs.  It certainly is a better name for an interface shared by
> different toolchains than __gnu_Unwind_Find_exidx(), although we do need
> to also provide that symbol for anyone using gcc.

Yes, I indeed misunderstood your description, thank you for the clarificati=
on.
I.e. clang on Linux and gcc use __gnu_Unwind_Find_exidx(), while (future)
clang on non-Linuxes uses dl_unwind_find_exidx() ?  And there is no
ABI statement on the symbol, right ?

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