Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:31:11 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no> To: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-RELEASE? Message-ID: <19980304093111.30413@follo.net> In-Reply-To: <14599.888976315@gjp.erols.com>; from Gary Palmer on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:51:55PM -0500 References: <19980303092719.58779@follo.net> <14599.888976315@gjp.erols.com>
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On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:51:55PM -0500, Gary Palmer wrote:
> Eivind Eklund wrote in message ID
> <19980303092719.58779@follo.net>:
> > Idea: Would it be politically possible to include a 'dontation' field
> > in the registration, where people could key in their credit card
> > number, expiry date and the amount they want to donate to further
> > FreeBSD development?
>
> A lot of ppl won't because its not a secure delivery.
secure.flp, distributed from the US and Europe separately?
This was part of what was implied in 'feasible' above.
We should also be allowed to distribute 40-bit SSL freely, shouldn't we?
(Not the source code to do it - but that can be taken care of through the
normal secure/internaltion distinction, probably).
Having said that:
The secure/non-secure distinction is a matter of collective insanity.
Credit cards are _not_ confidential information.
(a) They can be calculated from scratch for less than 5 minutes work.
(b) They can be extracted from credit-information companies that have
security that can only be likened to an open door.
(c) Everybody that use their credit card in any restaurant, hotel,
gas-station, or shop is giving out unecrypted credit card information to
people that they shouldn't trust.
I used to track the so-called hacker/phreacker community pretty closely -
the largest number of cards come from (b), while the largest number of
people get cards from (c). _Anybody_ can get cards from (c) if they put
down a tiny amount of work on it. Any kid playing at being a 'hacker'
(media term) can get cards from source (b) through other kids not playing
quite so lousy.
At least the fact that any kid knows another kid that works in a gas-station
should be obvious to the averagely clued person that takes 2 secs to think
about it.
Sorry for the steam; back to your regular programming. (I've just been
frustrated over this for a _long_ time).
> > If the estimated number of users is correct, and each donated $10,
> > there'd be a cool $5M to improve FreeBSD.
>
> One way right now is to bu the CDROM ... its more than $10 I know, but
> the proceeds are used to better the project.
I'm doing that, but it isn't really a good way (for me) - it implies extra
work, and it implies that part of what I pay go to something I don't need.
I'd feel much better about giving money directly to the project.
Eivind.
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