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Date:      Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:38:07 -0500
From:      "Paul C. Boyle" <freebsdruns@yahoo.com>
To:        "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1015883642.71b976@mired.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: I need hack, I would like a clock like the xdaliclock but reads the time out in HE
Message-ID:  <200203070437.XAA13463@alpha.vaxxine.com>
In-Reply-To: <15494.36857.673158.314313@guru.mired.org>
References:  <200203061700.MAA11066@alpha.vaxxine.com> <15494.36857.673158.314313@guru.mired.org>

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Thank you for the kind reply Mike.
I have been shown the elitist attude by others at times,
and man I tell you its can bring a buy down.


On March 6, 2002 04:54 pm, you wrote:
> > minimal exposure to these.) I have looked a Python and found it a bit
> > confusing not having to delare everything and aslo it has no unary
> > opperator.
>
> All languages have unary operators - at the very least negate, both
> loagical and arithmeatic. Most modern ones have a boolean negate as
> well.

My comment was't meant to knock Python. I have read about Python and 
very much like what I have read.
Just to tell you where I am coming from. I have taken a ten week night class 
in C++ 2 years ago. This was my first experience with programming. This just 
gave me the basics like , looping, functions, arrays, pointers as such.  
Since coming to Freebsd unix I found the majority of things is done in C.
So I picked up the book Teach yourself C in 21 Days. Things are different 
here but they do make sense.
Now looking at Python books things are a lot differently done.  
like  how do you do a for loop as you would in C or C++. 

 for ( x=0: x < 10 ;  x ++ )

Is the  ++  not the unary operator?
What is the same thing in Python?

Maybe Sams will put out a Teach Yourself Python in 21 Days.
I'd like to learn Perl as well but good books for newbies are hard to find.

>
> > Is there a Master Yoda sensing a disturbance in the force?
>
> Well, Python 2.0 has unary assignment operators if that's what you
> meant. Personally, I think python is the most readable thing I've
> found, and would gladly write you such a tool just to show off python,
> except I'm currently bedridden and can't get access ot a machine with
> an X server to test it on. If you still don't have one in two weeks,
> drop me a note about it, as I should be up and about by then.

I would appriciate that so much. I would really like to learn a language that 
I could use to make things when I want.  Like a clock that reads out in HEX.

My day job, I drive transport truck.  I could see writing a program for the 
palm pilot for other truck drivers to do their daily log book calculations.


I will pray that you gett better real soon Mike.
Take care.
Paul...
>
> 	<mike

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