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Date:      Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:35:27 -0500
From:      "Frank J. Laszlo" <laszlof@tvog.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr
Subject:   Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!!
Message-ID:  <420BFDCF.1000409@tvog.net>
In-Reply-To: <1661596661.20050210234947@wanadoo.fr>
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Anthony Atkielski wrote:

>Frank Laszlo writes:
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>>Yes, Process colors being 4 plates, but rendered properly, it could be
>>less.
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>All process printing requires four (or six) colors. That's what process
>means.
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>>The current "logo" as it is shown on freebsd.org, COULD be printed on 2
>>plates, as a 2 color job. those colors being black and red.
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>Possibly.  It would still look odd, though.
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>>This isnt an issue with todays modern digital 4 color presses such as
>>the iGen3.
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>It's an issue with any press.  Digital presses have less trouble with
>registration, but they aren't any better at getting the line frequencies
>higher.  Indeed, normal offset provides higher frequencies.
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>>It has no problem with registration if ran by a qualified
>>operator. Now if you are a 80's or 90's printer using an old heidelburg
>>2 color press, sure.. registration is very difficult when dealing with
>>small print and screens.
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>What sort of printer would FreeBSD best be able to afford?
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Well, I'm not going into budget issues, but yes you have a point here. I 
am open to quote any print
job if the FreeBSD Foundation so chooses to do official corporate print 
work. e.g. letterhead, business
cards, printed manuals, etc.. I would of course give my normal discount 
as I do with any other non-profit
organizations.

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>>Furthermore, anyone with experience in the modern printing world knows
>>that getting high quality (and affordable) printed artwork on a small 
>>piece is very simple when using the right equipment.
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>It doesn't matter what equipment you use.  Small artwork with lots of
>fine detail reduces poorly; if it contains halftones, it reduces even
>more poorly.
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Who says it has to be small? and how small are you talking for print 
work? on a CD? thats not very small IMHO. One
should be able to attain excellent quality at that size. I consider 
"small" artwork to be < 1in.

>>I've done several of these type of jobs on the iGen3 we have here at
>>my office. Anyways, this is WAY off from the original post, So I end
>>it with that.
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>Actually it is highly relevant, since a key reason for developing a
>simple logo is to make it easy to display and print.
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Getting back to the point at hand, the beastie is nothing more than a 
mascot. plain and simple. But people
are talking like there will be no more beastie representing FreeBSD. I 
dont think this is the point.

Also, whoever started that petition needs to actually get some inside 
information other than a "non publicized" (sp?)
anouncement. The true intention of this logo contest is likely to give 
more of a corporate identity to freebsd as a whole.
I am now done with this thread. Once again, I will end it. (hopefully) :)


Kind Regards,
    Frank Laszlo



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