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Date:      Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        karl@Mcs.Net, tom@misery.sdf.com, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCSI disk wedge
Message-ID:  <199507131416.JAA01568@Jupiter.mcs.net>
In-Reply-To: <199507130829.BAA02990@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 13, 95 01:29:10 am

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> Karl Denninger writes:
>  > If FreeBSD is going to be a production platform then it is going to have to
>  > start behaving like one.  This means that pushing things off on drive
>  > vendors is not acceptable.
> 
> Please, Tom doesn't necessarily speak for the FreeBSD Project!  We
> agree that a problem is a problem, and finger pointing avails us nothing.
> 
> > If you have a problem with a device, you *report it*.  Silent death is never
>  > acceptable.  The kernel is running in this case, but the system is hung
>  > waiting on I/O completion.
> 
> This is one area in which the SCSI code needs significant improvement;
> no argument at all about that and we've known it for some time.
> Finding people willing to go in there with a flashlight hunting for
> unhandled error conditions and such is the more difficult problem.
> 
> 					Jordan

I understand this.... if I had a bus probe and an SCSI bus monitor I'd be
more than willing to do this kind of thing.  Unfortunately, I have neither.

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