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Date:      Wed, 29 May 1996 16:02:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Veggy Vinny <richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: long motd files - screen pause?
Message-ID:  <Pine.PTX.3.91.960529160144.29367G-100000@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <199605292120.OAA14450@phaeton.artisoft.com>

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On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote:

> > > > > > > 	Use a smaller motd.  Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews)
> > > > > > > 	in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a
> > > > > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'.
> > > > 
> > > > 	Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it 
> > > > upon logging in?
> > > 
> > > /bin/login if ~/.hushlogin doesn't exist.
> > 
> > 	Hmmm, so I just need to modify /bin/login to do |more when it cats
> > the file?
> 
> more uses the termcap to get the size of the screen so it knows when
> to say more.
> 
> The termcap isn't set until after you login, unless you are using
> rlogin/telnet/xterm or some other convention that passes the user
> environment to the system being logged into.
> 
> So you need to be logged all the way in for login to be able to
> display using "more" before you are logged all the way in.
> 
> In other words, if you do it in login, you will need to have some
> information which it is impossible for you to have.  Which is why
> I suggested the "system news" package instead, since it can be
> run globally *after* login.

	Hmmm, okay but how do some machines make the motd pause even 
before it knows the termcap?

Vince




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