Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:32:11 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny <richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: Randy Terbush <randy@zyzzyva.com> Cc: David Greenman <dg@Root.COM>, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Chad Shackley <chad@gaianet.net> Subject: Re: Decision in Router Purchase Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.95.961114142937.6675l-100000@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199611142217.QAA18926@sierra.zyzzyva.com>
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Randy Terbush wrote: > > > Hmmm okay.... Atleast it seems they are way better from the > > sounds of it than our current provider PBI.Net which uses AGIS.Net as the > > backbone and refuses to peer with anyone. I guess from what you are > > saying, it seems like they are a company that atleast is upgrading as time > > goes on. As for the >75% packet loss on their backbone, which sites for > > example were you connecting to? SprintLink is even worst after all the > > Northern UC Campuses went into a SMDS cloud and out one DS3 to their > > Stockton hub, we've been getting 95% packet loss after the switch from > > BBNPlanet to SprintLink 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the info though. We've > > been doing our research and found that MCI, Sprint, PBI/AGIS are the ones > > to stay away from. > > > > Vince > > Just for my own edification... > > It often seems that MCI,Sprint get a bad rap. I'm not an employee > or stockholder, but if I'm not mistaken it would be my _rough_ guess that > between these two providers, they are carring probably 80% of the traffic > on the net (remember, that was a guess). They are but they are proven to have high packet loss rates... > By "staying away from" these two giants, what do you gain? Performance... > Doesn't your traffic eventually get handled by them? Well, UCBerkeley used to be with BBNPlanet and is on SprintLink... All the traffic lags at the SprintLink Stockton MAE-WEST hub and is experiencing packet loss and this is a DS3 connection directly to stockton. > Don't you stand a better chance of getting your traffic routed > if you are a customer of Sprint or MCI? Not really. ANS.Net is big too.... AlterNet is as well. > >From an occasional glance at things, it would seem that _most_ of the > Sprint/MCI problems I see are with border routers not handling the > traffic that needs to get on their backbones. Not really because this was from Sprintlink to a Sprintlink site and if that doesn't work well then how can you expect it to work well for other things? Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
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