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Date:      Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:54:22 -0400
From:      Lee Cremeans <lee@wakky.dyn.ml.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed.
Message-ID:  <19971012205422.01929@wakky.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199710130027.RAA03047@usr05.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 12:27:09AM %2B0000
References:  <19971012174035.46037@wakky.dyn.ml.org> <199710130027.RAA03047@usr05.primenet.com>

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On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 12:27:09AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > What will I do if I buy a used machine with FreeBSD installed on it...
> > > telepathically copy the notebook from the guy selling it?
> > > 
> > > It seems we are reaching here to eliminate a perfectly reasonable
> > > warning message from the view of people too lazy to rebuild their
> > > kernel with fewer devices.
> > 
> > 
> > Okkay, time out. WHat's being proposed is the removal of the "disabled, not
> > probed" message, NOT the "device not found" messages. Read Jordan's post
> > again.
> 
> Actually, the "disabled, not probed" messsages in the non-verbose case.

Okkay, I saw that...

> There is a lot of code that falls into this category in the kernel;
> and a lot of code that is "dead" now that fixes have gone in, but
> has never been removed because someone kludged it to keep its mouth
> shut early on.  If it has an open mount, we know it needs a fix; if
> it doesn't, we won't know to dike it out if the fix comes regardless
> of the code (generally, architectural fixes fix a lot of code, and only
> the "mouthy" code gets diked out as a result -- we have a "code
> completeness" problem here which making the "not probed" messsages
> silent will only complicate.  8-(.

I see where you're coming from now; in this case, hiding the silence option
behind a #define may be a better idea. I'm not much of a kernel hacker, tho,
so...

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