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Date:      Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:12:45 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
Cc:        Capriotti <capriotti@geocities.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: /usr/src/release/sysinstall needs US. :-)) 
Message-ID:  <17374.886122765@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:04:19 PST." <199801300004.QAA04028@rah.star-gate.com> 

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And where's Java's curses based interface so that all those folks
installing FreeBSD from serial consoles can still do so?

And please don't tell me that:

	A) There aren't enough of those people to matter, because there
	   are - most ISPs who really know what they're doing have rack-
	   mounted their PCs long ago and do not have VGA monitors or
	   mice attached at all.  Once the machine is *installed*, sure,
	   you can bring up a purely remote interface.  It's getting it
	   to that point which concerns me, especially given a wide
	   selection of possible media (things like ppp installs require
	   a fair bit of dialog with the user and you'd ideally like to
	   share those dialog boxes with the overall networking setup
	   interface).

	B) That we should do two interfaces, one for each group, because
	   that requires too much duplication of effort.  We can't even
	   get people to write *one* admin interface much less two of them,
	   and if you don't make the CUI folks a priority from the very
	   beginning then they're going to get dropped out of convenience
	   because that's just too easy a thing to do.  That would be bad.


> I would go with Java mostly because of its application support frameworks
> available on win95 and hopefully we may be able to convince a company or
> two to make available their framework from the Dark Side to the Light Side
> (FreeBSD) 8)
> 
> You can argue about java vs tcl vs whatever however the bottom line is 
> the application framework . There are other parameters like performance
> ease of maintainability , etc...
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 	Amancio




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