Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:29:33 +0400 (MSD) From: Hostas Red <kong@kong.spb.ru> To: Bill Paul <wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Cc: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange things: xl driver Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980919222120.307J-100000@kong.dorms.spbu.ru> In-Reply-To: <199809191823.OAA19799@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>
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Hi! On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, Bill Paul wrote: > The vx driver doesn't use DMA! > > - The subject line doesn't even mention the xl driver, which means it > was only by pure chance that I happen to find this thread in my mail > backlog. Hmm... This problem may be not the problem of xl driver. > - Nobody has mentioned what version of the xl drive they are using. > For all I know you downloaded an old version from www.freebsd.org > and are complaining about bugs that are already fixed. Run, don't > walk, to /sys/pci/if_xl.c and show me the RCS $Id$ string so I have > some idea what's going on here. I'm cvsupping once a day at least, sometimes 2-3 times. Here the RCS ID: * $Id: if_xl.c,v 1.11 1998/09/08 23:42:10 wpaul Exp $ > - Nobody has bothered to describe the hardware they're using. What kind > of CPU do you have? What other PCI devices do you have? CPU: P5/166 on ASUS TX97X, other devices - DEC 21143 PCI Lancard, that's all (it doesn't work under freebsd on 10 mbit, so i'm using 3c905) > - Nobody has told me EXACTLY WHAT 3COM CARD THEY HAVE! Is it a 3c905-TX? > 3c900? 3c905B? 3c980? 3C905-TX > - Nobody has bothered to show a dmesg output with the probe information > from the xl driver. xl0: <3Com 3c905 Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:24:d8:a4:81 xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier > - Nobody has said exactly what version of FreeBSD they're running (yes, > I know this is the -current mailing list; that doesn't guarantee that > people are actually running the latest and greatest -current). FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT as of 4 hours ago. :) > - Nobody has said what kind of network they're using. (10Mbps? 100Mbps? > full duplex? half duplex? switched? shared? 10baseT? 10base2?) 10Base-T/UTP, half duplex. > Now, I have gotten mail from many other people who report no problems > whatsoever with the xl driver, and I havent had problems with my own > 3c905B hardware in a long time, so I'm highly inclined to blame people > for pilot error, particularly when presented with such meager details. Sorry. > This is really starting to annoy me. Everybody just assumes they can > say "I'm having a problem, please fix it" and I can just read tea leaves > or something and instantly divine the exact nature of their problems > without even the slightest amount assistance. Well it doesn't work that > way: I'm not a mind reader. DO NOT just say you have a problem and leave > it at that, expecting somebody else to pry the details out of you later. > Provide all the details up front or don't even bother posting. See above. :) Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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