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Date:      Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:23:33 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>
Cc:        mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), forrie@forrie.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Buildworld fails 
Message-ID:  <199812160223.SAA01119@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:29:57 %2B1100." <199812160229.NAA13518@cimlogic.com.au> 

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> Mike Smith wrote:
> > > 
> > > Buildworld is still failing after a make clean, and cvsups today
> > > (FreeBSD-3.0-CURRENT):
> > 
> > There are no errors in this transcript.  I suspect that you're not 
> > properly capturing the full build output; use the 'script' command 
> > for this.
> 
> I think it's the "case of the missing elf shared loader" that only gets
> reported by the kernel, not into user-space. Perl is really difficult
> to bootstrap build. I wish we had a rule that said it is not allowed
> to be used as a build tool. Perhaps I'll go hide now. 8-)

If we had Tcl in the base system, this would be trivial.  I don't want 
to use Perl at all - one is simply told that Perl is the be-all and 
end-all of hackish scripting languages, but it truly appears to be too 
fragile for that.

If anyone wants to take the offending script and rewrite it in a 
fashion which is friendly to the build environment, please be my guest. 
Perhaps the built versions of the help texts should be committed to the 
repository?

-- 
\\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
\\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com



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