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Date:      Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:25:31 +1100
From:      jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Complete FreeBSD, 3rd edition (was: Printed man pages (was: Looking for the best webmaster.))
Message-ID:  <19990109182531.H5652@caamora.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <19990108191849.A63511@scientia.demon.co.uk>; from Ben Smithurst on Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 07:18:49PM %2B0000
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On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 07:18:49PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> jonathan michaels wrote:
> 
> > my apologies if this is too harch to cope with, but thier are people in this 
> > world who have reasons to use books, and not all because they cannot use teh 
> > cheap monitors that are being supplied these days.
> 
> I partly agree with this. If there's a lot of stuff I want to learn, a
> book is nice, which is why I've just bought the Camel book. On the other
> hand, there doesn't seem much point digging around for a book[1], looking
> through it for the right page, etc, when "man foo" will tell you quick
> answers much faster.

yup ... but, if you all would allow me to ramble a bit, please.


i went down to my library recently to see if i could get some specific books 
as a prelude to purhasing them (specificaly teh evi nemeth tomes). my library 
is like average libraries and USED to have a case full of this neat little 5x8 
cards with book details all set out a to z.

i'd browse thise shelves for hours doing research, well now they have a 
damnable database on computer .. not like amazon.com or even a textual 
synopsis of teh book in a wais database so one could do an intelligent wais 
search followed up by a human logic fuzzy search on teh output. thye pit the 
entire cardfile system into a ms windows based database and provide some very 
primitive tools to do searches .. basic alpha_char on limited fileds type of 
searches.

after half an hour of this i gave up and left, even though i could sit down, 
the old crd draers were a standup operation .. not the sort of thing a person 
with arthritis relishes.

this is part of teh point i am making with books as opposed to manpages on 
small tv screens .. grin 

with a book you can do some much more productive 'learning' and folowup, 
whereas with a manpage you already have to know exactly what it is that you 
want ... i recently discovered xman on my xfree bin kit, it was such a 
revelation, almost as good as having a real book, but the sereen got to me 
soon enough.

> --
> [1] on my desk, that part would take the longest, I assure you
> -- 

me too ben, but tfor me that is teh 'learning experience', i als value 
serendipity, which is why i hate computeried learning so much.

regards and thx

jonathan

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