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Date:      Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:07:38 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@sr.hp.com>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Vinum questions?
Message-ID:  <19990317090738.Z429@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199903162217.OAA07159@mina.sr.hp.com>; from Darryl Okahata on Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 02:17:41PM -0800
References:  <19990317082414.O429@lemis.com> <199903162217.OAA07159@mina.sr.hp.com>

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On Tuesday, 16 March 1999 at 14:17:41 -0800, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
>
>>>>     As I said: I've found that you do NOT have to do this if you first
>>>> do a "vinum stop" on all vinum volumes.
>>>
>>>     Oops, sorry.  I don't know how, but I must have missed that
>>>     part.
>>
>> Because it's not true.  I've told Darryl this in private mail.  It
>> doesn't help to disseminate incorrect information.
>
>      I'm a bit confused.  I do know that it's not required (and is, as
> you say, incorrect), according to the vinum documentation, but it does
> seem to be needed by 3.1-RELEASE.  With 3.1-RELEASE, I had problems with
> spontaneous resets/reboots after a "vinum resetconfig".  Once I started
> doing "vinum stop" before resetconfig, my spontaneous reset problems
> went away (however, my spontaneous resets were intermittent, which seems
> to be slightly different than Brad's experience).

OK, this may be the case, but you didn't say that in the original
message, and Brad was already on his way to 4.0.  The trouble is that
such statements tend to stick, and people trade them for years
afterwards :-)

>      I can only speak for 3.1-RELEASE, as that's all I currently
> have.  I do hope to try 3.1-STABLE (I've cvsup'd the repository),
> but I don't know when I'll have the time (at my current rate, it'l
> be weeks ;-().  I can only assume that the incorrect "vinum stop" is
> no longer needed by newer versions of FreeBSD 

It was never necessary.  I suspect that you might have been able to
work around some bug by doing it.  But you should upgrade to
4.0-CURRENT as soon as possible.

> (you've been doing a lot of great work on vinum).

Thanks.

>      Using 3.1-RELEASE (note that I do not yet have the time to try a
> newer version),

What's the problem?  It takes about 5 minutes to compile the new
version on a slow machine.

> what do you suggest I do?  If I don't do a "vinum stop" before
> resetconfig, I get intermittent spontaneous resets.

Then do a vinum stop.  But the real solution is to get the newer
version, which contains a number of other fixes.  I'd put binary
versions up on the ftp server, but it's unlikely that they would work
with 3.1-RELEASE.

Greg
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