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Date:      Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:13 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: thanks re: kernel.debug/kernel mess!
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904271916470.378-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199904272226.PAA00952@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

>     I would like to thank Peter and the other architects of the 
>     new kernel/kernel.debug build methodology!  Having it
>     generate a kernel.debug, create the debug-stripped 'kernel'
>     in /usr/src/sys/compile/ID/, and install the stripped version
>     on make install really makes life a lot easier for me and,
>     probably, everyone else who is compiling up debug kernels.

I agree.  Greg's idea was right, it's too bad that his implementation
*changed* instead of *adding*.  I've seen *so* many good ideas go out
the door here, because folks want to force change instead of adding
options.  The battle over init/shtudown, doing it the BSD way versus the
AT&T way, is a great example of an idea that won't fly until those
involved learn to cooperate, not coerce.

That said, I would like to propose one addition.  If you don't like it,
fine, but if there was a 'debug-install' target that did the normal
install thing, then copied kernel.debug to /var/crash for me, that would
be the cherry on top!  Any of us could do that, but one or two
dissenters here would stop me.  Notice, this would change *nothing* if
the user didn't specifically use that target.

> 
> 					Thanks!
> 
> 					-Matt
> 					Matthew Dillon 
> 					<dillon@backplane.com>
> 
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