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Date:      Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:44:40 +0100
From:      Nick Taylor <nt@dataskill.co.uk>
To:        Ivan Kohler <ivan@iqualify.com>, aic7xxx@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Crash/Reboot with Adaptec 3940UW
Message-ID:  <37831378.92571E9C@dataskill.co.uk>
References:  <19990706155611.A20797@ivan.iqualify.com>

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It was the software drivers for the 3940 that I was referring to, not the cards themselves :-)

Nick

Ivan Kohler wrote:

> I am using 3940s (specifically, two 3940UWs and a 3940AUW).  I don't think
> all 3940s are broken.  On the other hand, had I not watched a hang-on-boot
> problem follow a card between several machines (but only with 2.2.10
> kernel - the "broken" card worked fine with 2.2.7 kernels), I may not have
> sent it back and gotten a working one.
>
> On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 09:00:32AM +0100, Nick Taylor wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > This sounds suspiciously like the problem that I have been having with 3940s. I believe that
> > the current aic drivers are broken for 3940s - As soon as I try to use 2 hds at the same time
> > (either on the same or different channels) my machine hangs. I am currently using only one
> > drive on the 3940 and the others on a 2940 which is fine.
> >
> > Hoping for someone to address this problem soon.
> >
> > Nick
> > ----
> >
> > Jeffrey Veiss wrote:
> >
> > > Calling all SCSI experts:
> > >
> > > I have a bit of a challenge with an Adaptec 3940UW SCSI card.  To start off,
> > > here's the specs:
> > >
> > >    Tyan Trinity 1590 Motherboard v1.16
> > >    AMD K6 233MHz CPU
> > >    128M SDRAM
> > >    Windows 98 loaded on a Western Digital 4G EIDE drive (4 part VFAT)
> > >    Redhat 6 loaded on Seagate Cheetah (3 part VFAT, 4 part ext2, 1 part swap)
> > >    See below for more info
> > >
> > > The Problem:
> > >
> > >    I was happily computing along, backing up my laptop to the /home partition
> > >    on the above machine (hostname = fuzzy) using rdist when fuzzy restarted.
> > >    This happened three times before I decided to do something else and work
> > >    on why later.  The next day (I don't remember what i was doing), fuzzy
> > >    was rebooting into linux and needed to fsck the / partition (sda5).  As
> > >    it was trying to fsck, it crashed/rebooted with no errors.  Every reboot
> > >    has the same result.  The only major change to the system was a
> > >    motherboard BIOS update.
> > >
> > >
> > > Things I tried:
> > >
> > >    o Booting from Slackware 3.5 SCSI boot/rescue root floppies and running
> > >      fsck on sda5.
> > >
> > >    o Booting from Slackware 4.0 aic7xxx boot/rescue root floppies and running
> > >      fsck on sda5.
> > >
> > >    o When booting/rooting from floppy, I can mount sda5 but if I poke
> > >      around too much (cd's & ls's), it eventually crashes/reboots.
> > >
> > >    o I can fsck the other ext2 sda* partitions, but poking around too much
> > >      eventually crashes/reboots (tar'ing each partition causes a crash).
> > >
> > >    o Tar'ing a CD from either CD-ROM drive doesn't cause a crash.
> > >
> > >    o Setting Bus A termination to Disabled and Bus B termination to Enabled.
> > >
> > >    o I booted with aic7xxx=panic_on_abort,verbose and it still rebooted.
> > >
> > >    o I downgraded the motherboard BIOS to the original version and it still
> > >      crashes.
> > >
> > >    o Windows 98 (scarily enough) works fine.  I did a thorough scandisk on
> > >      all EIDE & SCSI partitions with no problem.  Both CD-ROM's work fine.
> > >
> > >    o The cheetah was repartitioned and installed with Redhat 6 a few weeks ago
> > >      and except when I had to turn off wide negotiation on the CD-ROM and Zip
> > >      drives, has been working fine.
> > >
> > > At this point, I'm at a loss as to what to try next.  Possibilities include
> > > hardware failure on either the SCSI Card or Seagate Cheetah or a SCSI BIOS
> > > mis-configuration, but then why does Windows 98 work?  (No really, why
> > > does Windows 98 work? :-)  )
> > >
> > > Any assistance would be gratefully appreciated!
> > >
> > > Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at
> > > jsv@sirveiss.com.  Thank you very much!
> > >
> > > Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@NOSPAMsirveiss.com)      13 Lynn Court
> > > Network Engineer/System Administrator       Somerville, NJ 08876
> > > Sir Veiss, Inc.                             (908) 431-1318
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Here's some other useful info:
> > >
> > > Significant IRQ's:
> > >
> > >  3     COM2
> > >  4     COM1
> > >  5 IDE Creative Labs AWE32
> > >  7 PCI Adaptec AHA-3940 Ultra/Ultra Wide v1.25
> > > 10 PCI Adaptec AHA-3940 Ultra/Ultra Wide v1.25
> > > 11 PCI 3Com Fast Ethernet
> > > 14     Enhanced IDE Bus
> > > 15     USB
> > > NA PCI Creative Labs Voodoo 2
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> --
> Ivan Kohler <ivan@iqualify.com>
>
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It was the software drivers for the 3940 that I&nbsp;was referring to,
not the cards themselves :-)
<p>Nick
<p>Ivan Kohler wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I am using 3940s (specifically, two 3940UWs and a
3940AUW).&nbsp; I don't think
<br>all 3940s are broken.&nbsp; On the other hand, had I not watched a
hang-on-boot
<br>problem follow a card between several machines (but only with 2.2.10
<br>kernel - the "broken" card worked fine with 2.2.7 kernels), I may not
have
<br>sent it back and gotten a working one.
<p>On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 09:00:32AM +0100, Nick Taylor wrote:
<br>> Hi
<br>>
<br>> This sounds suspiciously like the problem that I have been having
with 3940s. I believe that
<br>> the current aic drivers are broken for 3940s - As soon as I try to
use 2 hds at the same time
<br>> (either on the same or different channels) my machine hangs. I am
currently using only one
<br>> drive on the 3940 and the others on a 2940 which is fine.
<br>>
<br>> Hoping for someone to address this problem soon.
<br>>
<br>> Nick
<br>> ----
<br>>
<br>> Jeffrey Veiss wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > Calling all SCSI experts:
<br>> >
<br>> > I have a bit of a challenge with an Adaptec 3940UW SCSI card.&nbsp;
To start off,
<br>> > here's the specs:
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tyan Trinity 1590 Motherboard v1.16
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AMD K6 233MHz CPU
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 128M SDRAM
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows 98 loaded on a Western Digital 4G EIDE
drive (4 part VFAT)
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Redhat 6 loaded on Seagate Cheetah (3 part VFAT,
4 part ext2, 1 part swap)
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; See below for more info
<br>> >
<br>> > The Problem:
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was happily computing along, backing up my
laptop to the /home partition
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; on the above machine (hostname = fuzzy) using
rdist when fuzzy restarted.
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This happened three times before I decided to
do something else and work
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; on why later.&nbsp; The next day (I don't remember
what i was doing), fuzzy
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; was rebooting into linux and needed to fsck the
/ partition (sda5).&nbsp; As
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it was trying to fsck, it crashed/rebooted with
no errors.&nbsp; Every reboot
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; has the same result.&nbsp; The only major change
to the system was a
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; motherboard BIOS update.
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > Things I tried:
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o Booting from Slackware 3.5 SCSI boot/rescue
root floppies and running
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fsck on sda5.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o Booting from Slackware 4.0 aic7xxx boot/rescue
root floppies and running
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fsck on sda5.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o When booting/rooting from floppy, I can mount
sda5 but if I poke
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; around too much (cd's &amp; ls's),
it eventually crashes/reboots.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o I can fsck the other ext2 sda* partitions,
but poking around too much
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; eventually crashes/reboots (tar'ing
each partition causes a crash).
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o Tar'ing a CD from either CD-ROM drive doesn't
cause a crash.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o Setting Bus A termination to Disabled and Bus
B termination to Enabled.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o I booted with aic7xxx=panic_on_abort,verbose
and it still rebooted.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o I downgraded the motherboard BIOS to the original
version and it still
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; crashes.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o Windows 98 (scarily enough) works fine.&nbsp;
I did a thorough scandisk on
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; all EIDE &amp; SCSI partitions with
no problem.&nbsp; Both CD-ROM's work fine.
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o The cheetah was repartitioned and installed
with Redhat 6 a few weeks ago
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and except when I had to turn off
wide negotiation on the CD-ROM and Zip
<br>> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; drives, has been working fine.
<br>> >
<br>> > At this point, I'm at a loss as to what to try next.&nbsp; Possibilities
include
<br>> > hardware failure on either the SCSI Card or Seagate Cheetah or
a SCSI BIOS
<br>> > mis-configuration, but then why does Windows 98 work?&nbsp; (No
really, why
<br>> > does Windows 98 work? :-)&nbsp; )
<br>> >
<br>> > Any assistance would be gratefully appreciated!
<br>> >
<br>> > Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet
mail at
<br>> > jsv@sirveiss.com.&nbsp; Thank you very much!
<br>> >
<br>> > Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@NOSPAMsirveiss.com)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
13 Lynn Court
<br>> > Network Engineer/System Administrator&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Somerville, NJ 08876
<br>> > Sir Veiss, Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
(908) 431-1318
<br>> >
<br>> > ----------------------------------------
<br>> > Here's some other useful info:
<br>> >
<br>> > Significant IRQ's:
<br>> >
<br>> >&nbsp; 3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; COM2
<br>> >&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; COM1
<br>> >&nbsp; 5 IDE Creative Labs AWE32
<br>> >&nbsp; 7 PCI Adaptec AHA-3940 Ultra/Ultra Wide v1.25
<br>> > 10 PCI Adaptec AHA-3940 Ultra/Ultra Wide v1.25
<br>> > 11 PCI 3Com Fast Ethernet
<br>> > 14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Enhanced IDE Bus
<br>> > 15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; USB
<br>> > NA PCI Creative Labs Voodoo 2
<p>----- End forwarded message -----
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<br>Ivan Kohler &lt;ivan@iqualify.com>
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