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Date:      Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:51:58 -0300
From:      Pedro A M Vazquez <vazquez@iqm.unicamp.br>
To:        Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        "David E. Cross" <crossd@cs.rpi.edu>, mestery@visi.com, Scott Michel <scottm@CS.UCLA.EDU>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Just the kind of news we needed...
Message-ID:  <19990713005157.A26497@kaly.iqm.unicamp.br>
In-Reply-To: <19990712232342.B19068@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 11:23:42PM %2B0100
References:  <mestery@visi.com> <199907121841.OAA86709@cs.rpi.edu> <19990712232342.B19068@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>

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 Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 11:23:42PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 02:41:32PM -0400, David E. Cross wrote:
> > > > http://thc.pimmel.com/
> > > > 
> > > I actually found the article a very good source of documentation on
> > > programming loadable modules for FreeBSD.  Granted, I'm not sure of it's
> > > accuracy, but it was a worthwhile read for someone like myself who has
> > > only coded LKMs for Linux.  Very interesting.
> >
> > Agreed.  Perhaps we could (with the author's permission) import this a bit 
> > into the documentation project?
> 
> He he.
> 
> I'll contact them tomorrow, and see what I can work out.
> 
yep the tutorial about kld is very good, the kewl topics about backdoors
are as harmfull as building a trojaned kernel or tcpd wrapper. This article
is like one of the sekure.org "teaching" how to "break" ssh after
you got root on a given machine using ktrace. Not he's wrong but
even Mitnick had beter ideas on VMS macines about trojaning PGP 5 years
ago. Anyway while the article is very-very good it seems the 
markting was more slashdot oriented than security itself, I can see
that "unknow user" at kernel@tdnet.com.br removing freebsd from his servers
due freebsd being unsecure.
I think articles like this one should be part of FBSD documentation
not only as a digest but also with an url to the original paper, we
had other good papers on *BSD internals in phrack and other uground
publications that never got to www.freebsd.org


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