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Date:      Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:10:51 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        Radu-Cristian FOTESCU <rfotescu@idsrom.com>, John Armstrong <siberian@siberian.org>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?!
Message-ID:  <19990727111051.F62218@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990726182840.F1384@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 06:28:40PM %2B0200
References:  <C1F3617BDC52D21185E40000214C247C154053@id-bucharest.idsrom.com> <19990726184500.W51019@freebie.lemis.com> <19990726182840.F1384@daemon.ninth-circle.org>

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On Monday, 26 July 1999 at 18:28:40 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> * Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) [990726 13:15]:
>> Don't get me wrong, I think we should do more to make it easy for
>> Linux people to migrate to FreeBSD.  But that's a sideline; somebody
>> commented that we don't want to turn FreeBSD into Linux.  On the other
>> hand, the shell issue is an example of where we go over the top: I
>> looked on freefall yesterday, and only one person uses csh.  Nobody
>> uses sh.  I'd guess a large minority use tcsh, a couple use zsh, and
>> the largest single group (60%?) use bash.
>
> Guess I am the only fart to use ksh?

Dunno.  It's a pity we don't have a real /etc/passwds any more.  That
was an interesting source of statistics.

> I recognise DES and EE as the zsh freaks though *G*
>
> But then again Greg, judging on freefall doesn't account for csh's
> popularity in other environments where the default still would be
> csh and used.

Sure.  They're probably the commercial environments where tcsh hasn't
been ported, and where people are too lazy to move to one of the
Bourne descendants.

> All a matter of taste... We could however kick csh out, make it a
> port, if it's not there already, and just have /bin/sh ;)

No, I think that would start another religious war.

Greg
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