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Date:      Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:46:17 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c
Message-ID:  <19990920114616.I55065@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909200213.TAA56998@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from Rodney W. Grimes on Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 07:13:38PM -0700
References:  <19990920101545.U55065@freebie.lemis.com> <199909200213.TAA56998@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 19:13:38 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 11:46:17 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>>>> In message <199909191837.LAA55732@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Grimes" writes
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>> Or as IBM did many years ago "rotating platter mass storage device" :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought there international work for Disc was ``Direct Access Storage
>>>>> Device'' abbreviated as ``DASD'', pronounced as in DazzDee :-).
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that got used over here around '90 or so.  There were
>>>> also various conflicing terminologies, mostly one per on product line
>>>> (series/1 vs 3x vs 3[67]0 etc etc).
>>>
>>> DASD was post 370 terminology, started about the time of the 3082/84
>>> series so 1990 would be about right for when IBM started to use it.
>>
>> I have here a book entitled "IBM 360 Assembler Language Programming",
>> published by Wiley in 1970.  On page 409, at the beginning of the
>> chapter entitled "Direct Access Storage Devices (DASD)", I read
>>
>>   DASDs available for System 360 are listed below.
>>
>>     1.  Drive with removable disk packs: 2311 and 2314.
>>     2.  Drive with non-removable disk packs: 2302.
>>     3.  Drum: 2301 and 2303.
>>     4.  Data Cell drive: 2321.
>
> Your looking at technical manuals, yes, DASD has been in use there for
> eons, I could probably find reference to it in 1401 documentation circa
> 1964.  But it was much much much later that IBM stated calling it DASD
> in marketing data, as no one outside the technical crowd knew what it
> was.

Ah.

> You'll also note that my circa 1969 ``Programming the IBM 1130'',
> published by Wiley in 1969 makes no mention at all of DASD, uses
> the word disk extensivly and references the model 2310 disk cartridge
> drive (immediate predicessor to the 2311.)

Well, no, you're going to have to note that for me :-)

I suppose it's conceivable that the term grew up with the mainframe
people at IBM and was adopted by the other groups at a later date.

Greg
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