Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:27:26 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin <mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net> To: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speaking of 3.4... Message-ID: <199911240627.BAA00161@rtfm.newton> In-Reply-To: <199911240524.VAA00694@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Nov 23, 1999 09:24:25 pm"
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Mike Smith once stated: => Both problems are related to the majority of PC BIOSes' brain damage, => but somehow other operating systems manage to work around the said => damage. =Actually, these "other" operating systems avoid the issue by not =offering the functionality in question at all. As I mentioned earlier, NT installed onto a SCSI Jazz drive and continues to boot from it -- with two IDE disks in the way. Even though it appears as drive J: in the diskmanager. I don't remember it EVER having a problem counting the true memory amount, either, may be others do. =You remember incorrectly. The 64MB problem was licked when I managed to =steamroller Sean and Jonathan's VM86 work into the system in order to =use the BIOS. Quite possible. Or may be it was the combination of several factors? My point was, that I was told with a very similarly convincing tones, that it will never happen. The person also tried to explain it by saying the FreeBSD usership is different from that of other OSes, so there is no need to bother. =Likewise, I can in all modesty claim credit for fixing the very problem =that you're whining about in the 4.x branch as well. Mike, while I'm sincerely thankful to you and others, I must note, that I'm not "whining". What's more, I ask you to take that comment back. I know my way around things like this and worse. When I hit a problem and have time, I investigate it, often ending up with a PR. If I don't -- I work around it. =I'm not sure just why it is that the easier it is to work around a =problem, the more people whine about it. No. The right question to ask is, if it is so damn easy, WHY CAN'T IT BE AUTOMATED? Perhaps you are lucky to only converse with the happy Unix users, and simply can't imagine the rest of us, trying to convince people to TRY. And if it does not work from the first time, they are unlikely to try again. And don't try to deny it -- the growing usership IS what gives your work and efforts sense and what gives you (and me) the satisfaction. So stop looking down at those who point out what's missing. The questions- is flooded with the "can't mount root" (not my observation). It is a genuine feedback, YOU need, filtered and summarized for you... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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