Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 17:18:41 +1100 From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME discussions Message-ID: <AFEE4753-81E2-46BF-97BE-CF22508944E8@nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <1b8a3afa-8a9f-ddad-fe7f-2a9ea2e432f6@freebsd.org> References: <c9a4ee2d3a9cb81d6131854027e4860e@ltcddata.plus.com> <15e8931aefdad251e9410889360925826b690d8a.camel@riseup.net> <b49e74b6-778b-f970-1e8e-2ad66e92f9a0@freebsd.org> <f273926c4e3b5c47f1cf46f4b8206346606afce0.camel@riseup.net> <3507971d-e9fc-0531-5a63-f22f13854476@freebsd.org> <bb8097f1bc0de737ea90412c90ee12421e7d8592.camel@riseup.net> <74cd46ec-0149-486d-8df1-37859b3b5453@app.fastmail.com> <1dea781f-c56a-30ad-4763-80720aa67475@freebsd.org> <Y2J%2BvRxEzX2WBmxy@openbsd.local> <1b8a3afa-8a9f-ddad-fe7f-2a9ea2e432f6@freebsd.org>
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On 3 November 2022 3:04:13 am AEDT, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd=2Eo= rg> wrote: > On 02/11/2022 14:29, void wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 06:52:31AM +0000, Graham Perrin wrote: > > > >> E-mail too often fails=2E > >> > >> You can't fix this=20 > >> > <https://wiki=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/GrahamPerrin/email#Broken_threading=2E2C_= disconnections>, >=20 > >> for example=2E >=20 > =E2=80=A6 >=20 > > =E2=80=A6 The actual threading of an email conversation was (or at le= ast I=20 > > thought it was) > > an email client competency, exclusively=2E =E2=80=A6 >=20 > I mean, whatever the cause of the mess, the end result (a mess of=20 > apparently disconnected threads) can not be fixed: >=20 > <https://wiki=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/GrahamPerrin/email?action=3DAttachFile&do= =3Dget&target=3D2022-11-02+06=2E27+freebsd-questions=2Epng> With reference to: https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-June/index= =2Ehtml my OP message to the list "Broken User Experience - online mailing list" https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-June/001397= =2Ehtml about this very issue, the subsequent equally messy set of detached groups= of responses, and including notably from Baptiste Daroussin (bapt@) who th= em indicated desire to help fix the problem=2E The threading issues appear entirely related to the new list software, whi= ch apart from broken ability to traverse the lists properly by browser, may= also be messing with the thread linkages in distributed raw emails? Again, looking at the previous pipermail archives and browsing threads the= re shows how it used to be properly done for many years=2E Of course people - as well as the list software - were more disciplined in= keeping messages free of html attachments, wrapping lines at lengths suita= ble for text email clients etc=2E The messier it gets, the messier people = seem to want to make it :( Whether "it can not be fixed" is out of our hands, I don't know=2E I do k= now that it (thread linking and traversal) was ok for the first few months = on the new list software, but that when it changed to how it is now, that c= hange applied retrospectively to previous months =2E=2E=2E which seems to i= ndicate that if fixed, that may also retrospectively repair the damage?=20 cheers anyway, Ian
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