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Date:      Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:28:55 +0200
From:      Michael Grimm <trashcan@ellael.org>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Pat Maddox <pat@patmaddox.com>
Subject:   Re: Docker
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Pat Maddox <pat@patmaddox.com> wrote:

> For me, FreeBSD wins big on operational simplicity.

Amen

> Everything I’ve seen of FreeBSD so far - and what strongly attracts me to it - is that its user base skews heavily pragmatic, which is reflected in its ongoing development and ecosystem. People will continue to experiment with jails, develop new conventions and techniques for working with them, and share their efforts with others. The useful stuff will stick around and evolve, same as it has done since the beginning of BSD.
> 
> We don’t need Docker’s tools. We can apply some of its principles. Perhaps most of all, we can see in it many shining examples of what NOT to do.

Amen++

From my point of view, I do not see any need for Docker's tools as well. Jails are simple to set up and to use, and jails can be distributed by any capable admin, granted.

Regadrs,
Michael





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