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Date:      Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:00:46 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jim Sander <jim@federation.addy.com>
To:        Mark Conway Wirt <mark@intrepid.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: MUA as shell for mail-only accounts?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001061318580.21920-100000@federation.addy.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000106105603.D18458@intrepid.net>

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> All very important, but there are other pitfalls as well. 

   Such as? I'm always interested in hearing new ways. I'm even up for
generating a good list beyond what I already have. I'd even mod a
pine.conf.fixed file and make it available to anyone who wanted once we
could agree on a sanity-checked list of things that need blocking.

> If you allow ssh for "normal users," wasn't there a thread here a
> while ago that ssh could be used to change the login shell?  Forgive
> me if I'm remembering it incorrectly...

   Normal users have full access- they get tcsh as their shell. It's only
email-only users (who have their login shell as pine) that we're concerned
about here. In theory, normal users on the same system who know the
password to an email-only account could probably find a way to execute
chsh via su for that person's account, but that's why chsh is 700

   SSH I don't think can be used to change the shell directly- unless you
mean the "exploit the RSA-REF hole for root; vi /etc/master.passwd" method
of changing shells. :) Maybe *I'm* remembering incorrectly though.

-=Jim=- 




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