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Date:      Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:56:18 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        wilko@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, Dave Haney <dave@engg.ksu.edu>, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Unexpected machine check
Message-ID:  <14564.55164.916097.475755@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20000331181946.D1351@yedi.iaf.nl>
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Wilko Bulte writes:
 > > No, a panic is the correct behaviour.  A unexpected, uncorrectable
 > > machine check is a sign that something very, very, very bad has
 > 
 > Let me clarify: drastic from the average user's perspective. If there is a
 > way to nuke the offending process without taking down the machine with it
 > (??? here) than that would be preferable. I have no idea if one can
 > selectively do this, and if it is worth doing in the first place. X servers
 > are 'special' in the sense that they are very intimate with the hardware
 > (right?).

The problem is that machine checks can be asynchronous & may be caused
by devices going insane, so, in general, the fact that a user process
was running doesn't mean much.  Combined with the fact that you may
not know what caused a machine check, its pretty hard to be selective.

A developer debugging an X server is a very special case.

Cheers,

Drew




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