Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:08:32 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Cc: "Daniel J. Zaccariello" <marisombra@mindspring.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, John Papalia <john@jpepconsulting.com>, Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com>, smkelly@slashnet.org, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Message-ID: <22537.957380912@localhost> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 May 2000 22:35:28 %2B0530." <20000503223528.A654@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
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> Merely that they don't seem to think it's important, either from > an advocacy point of view or purely as a social nicety, whether > newbies tend to be flamed in IRC: "it's none of our business". You're absolutely right, what goes on in IRC is none of our business. Thank you for encapsulating the argument in a nutshell. It's none of our business because we don't have any control over the medium and anyone who tries to control it quickly becomes enmeshed in an escallating arms race of channel-holding bots and scripts to kick offenders who then retaliate by packet flood attacks and/or coming back under a variety of nicks from a variety of places. Do you HONESTLY think that the FreeBSD project has nothing better to do than play the equivalent of the UN in Mogadishu? That's just crazy. It's also pointless to talk about what "the linux community" is doing since we're not the linux community in either size or operating style and such comparisons are effectively meaningless. If you want to self-appoint yourself as an IRC emergency response team for dealing with these problems, just as various Linux folks have self-appointed themselves, then by all means go ahead - knock yourself out. That's how things work in both communities. If you want to write to Linus Torvalds and demand that he do something about a guy who insulted you in #linuxos then you'll also probably find that this works the same in both communities as well - you'll be dismissed with great contempt for bringing the wrong issue to the wrong person(s) and then you can flame "the Linux folks" for not taking your issues seriously for a change. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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