Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin q <jhb@FreeBSD.org> To: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com> Cc: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Message-ID: <XFMail.001012124712.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20001012151124.H37870@jade.chc-chimes.com>
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On 12-Oct-00 Bill Fumerola wrote:
>> Does the cron process give you the heebee-jeebies? What about the "scary"
>> ones like vmdaemon, pagedaemon, syncer, and swapper? Come on, think with
>> your head.
>
> Do any of the above have a history of providing {remote,local} root into
> machines
> that goes back further then before both of us were born? No.
Ummm. If the sendmail process is sleeping waiting for a SIGALARM it isn't
running so that it can be rooted. Please. Go learn about how this stuff works
before spouting off inaccuracies.
>> > Doesn't the word "cron" pop into everyones head when someone says "I'd
>> > like
>> > to run something once every X timeunits".
>>
>> Cron has uses for some things, but not for all things. Also, this change is
>> much less painless to a) other MTA's, and b) to sysinstall and descedants as
>> the only change is to sendmail_flags in rc.conf, rather than having to try
>> to automate editing of files.
>
> a) they should provide their own hooks into queueing ($PREFIX/etc/rc.d[2],
> etc)
So we want rc.d scripts that edit crontab? Hmm? Wouldn't these scripts
probably do the equivalent of a 'sendmail -q1d' or whatever instead? Isn't
that much easier than having each port/pkg install have to go editing cron
files and other silliness?
> b) limitations of our installer shouldn't prevent other subsystems from doing
> things right.
Lack of knowledge about how the system actually works shouldn't cause us to
use inefficient, wrong hacks.
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