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Date:      Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:58:07 -0700 (MST)
From:      "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
To:        "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>
Cc:        Paul Jansen <vlaero@yahoo.com.au>, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: your mail
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0102070854320.23780-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010207090017.D16642@peorth.iteration.net>

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On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Michael C . Wu wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 07:41:50AM -0700, Forrest W. Christian scribbled:
> | That said, I think the real attractiveness of PicoBSD is the small
> | utilities and the methods developed of squeezing "every" unneeded byte out
> | of the kernel as 8 or 16mb is not endless...
> 
> Cruchgen makes for very hard to update and very hard to update
> binaries.  I cannot simply update my ssh client by replacing the
> binary.  I would have to replace the whole image, which is dangerous.

Note that I didn't mention Crunchgen.  I haven't 100% decided that I like
it, but on the other hand I haven't found anything better.

What I was referring to was sps and the other tools which don't need a
kernel symbol table, or are generally teency replacements for their big,
bloated equivalents on a fully-configured freebsd.

That said, in the application I'm working on, the goal is to be able to
replace the entire code, including kernel in one big monolithic chunk.  
In this case, it doesn't much matter whether you use crunchgen or not as
far as updates go, as updates will flash the entire "code" partition of
the flash, leaving the configuration part untouched.

- Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE
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