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Date:      Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:15:22 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall config.c menus.c src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/help security.hlp
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010308111417.71958D-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010308081201.C84789@mollari.cthul.hu>

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On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:33:54AM -0500, Will Andrews wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 02:16:57AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > >   Log:
> > >   Fix some of the security profile messages to be more explanatory
> > >   and also obey most of the rules of english in their construction.
> > >   
> > >   Add a help screen for the security menu which gives the user a rough idea
> > >   just what the various security profiles do.
> > 
> > You really should mention that certain security profiles make it
> > impossible to start X without making another change.  I.e., warn a user
> > about securitylevel vs. XFree86.
> 
> I thought it worked as long as you started it before raising securelevel.

Yes, but if you have a program running with those privileges, you lose the
benefits of secure levels with regards to the relevant protections, as a
privileged process can attach to the X server using debugging interfaces
to gain access to the privileges.

I.e., securelevels suck. :-)

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services



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